Help with RNS510

[ron]

Hi guys our RNS510 died. It makes noise and try to start up with the vw logo but then shuts off and the cycle starts again. It's the B version.
Is it the HDD? Any advice guys? Thanks.

[Groovydoovy]

You could try reload firmware Ron?

[Nivey]

I had a similar issue to this recently - ended up getting a new Hard drive which seemed to fix that problem, but brought up another......
Some days the radio won't work at all, and I can only get it on by resetting the unit (often multiple times before it'll work, and sometimes that won't even work!)
I have tried a lot with it, but nothing has worked yet. I am now hoping someone here might know the answer!

My part number is 1T0035680D and currently have FW 4120 on it.
However I saw on another site that my part number equates to HW Vehicle 0xC801, 0xCA01 or 0xCC01
But my problem is on my system info I have a HW vehicle of 0xC201.

I don't know enough about this, but does that mean that the Hard drive that was installed is the wrong one for my system?

And if not, can someone advise what is the best FW to try for this unit? As it's my last hope at this stage!

According to a website i've found it gives this:
HW Vehicle: 0xC201 – HW Radio: 0004
C6/C7
1T0 035 680 B (1T0035680B)
Firmware version (when hardware last produced): 1300
Firmware version (unmodified releases): 1300
Firmware version (modified releases): 5269

This matches my HW Radio and HW Vehicle

However:
HW Vehicle: 0xC801 – HW Radio: 0006
C10/C11/C12
1T0 035 680 D (1T0035680D)
1T0 035 680 F (1T0035680F)
1T0 035 680 G (1T0035680G)
1T0 035 680 H (1T0035680H)
1T0 035 680 J (1T0035680J)
Firmware version (first and last release when manufactured): 3970 to 5269
Firmware version (unmodified releases): 5270
Firmware version (modified releases): 5270

Matches the delivery part number.

Does anyone know which is the most important factor?

Hopefully someone will be able to answer this Q as i've had this issue for a long time now with no joy!

Thanks very much,

N

[kamold]

Load firmware 5238.
Don't use the Australian firmware as you won't have enough space for European maps.
Use this one:
http://www.rnsfirmware.com/downloads/RNS510_Firmware/Europe/EU_FW_5238_60_35_5.iso

[Nivey]

Load firmware 5238.
Don't use the Australian firmware as you won't have enough space for European maps.
Use this one:
http://www.rnsfirmware.com/downloads/RNS510_Firmware/Europe/EU_FW_5238_60_35_5.iso


Ok Great,

I'll try that!

Hopefully it'll sort it. I was told before that the CANBUS? won't take a programming which is causing the problem.
I don't know what it is really, but would that make sense do you think?

N

[kamold]

The canbus gateway is what connects different modules together like your ecu, transmission, head unit, cluster etc. It's not used in the upgrade process.
Older cars had an issues with new head units causing battery drain when the head unit stayed powered because the canbus gateway wouldn't tell it to shut down

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[Nivey]

Yea that was part of my problems recently. Constantly having a flat battery as the radio wouldn't shut down when the key was taken out of the ignition.
I got that fixed, but the radio still won't turn on with the key (not a big issue in general - but wondering would it be related to my issues in powering on the unit)?

[kamold]

What part number is your gateway and is it correctly coded?

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[Nivey]

What part number is your gateway and is it correctly coded?

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When you say Gateway part number is that the same as "Delivery Part Number" that's in system information? In which case it's 1T0035680D and i've no idea if it's correctly coded, I didn't do it myself because I wouldn't know where to start, but i'm starting to think it's not!

Any tests or checks that can be done to confirm?

[kamold]

No the part number of your canbus gateway.
Do you have a vcds autoscan from your car?

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[Nivey]

No the part number of your canbus gateway.
Do you have a vcds autoscan from your car?

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No, don't have that. How do you go about getting it?

N

[kamold]

You need to find someone local with VCDS and have them scan your car.

[Nivey]

You need to find someone local with VCDS and have them scan your car.

Ok, thanks for that.
Do you think I should go ahead with the FW update as suggested previously anyway?

[kamold]

There is no harm in upgrading (apart from the small risk whenever you upgrade anything that something could go wrong) it will at least have the latest software on there.
Be aware you will also need to reload your maps so have your maps disk on hand.
And it will delete the music on your HDD.

[Nivey]

There is no harm in upgrading (apart from the small risk whenever you upgrade anything that something could go wrong) it will at least have the latest software on there.
Be aware you will also need to reload your maps so have your maps disk on hand.
And it will delete the music on your HDD.

Great stuff. I will do that today or tomorrow so and hopefully it'll help matters!
If not I will try get a VCDS scan from somewhere!

Thanks for your help!

[kamold]

You'll have someone local with vcds. Try a local forum like briskoda.net or vwaudiforum.co.uk or autostadt.ie

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[Nivey]

You'll have someone local with vcds. Try a local forum like briskoda.net or vwaudiforum.co.uk or autostadt.ie

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Great,

Thanks very much!

Will check them out!

N

[Nivey]

So update to this.

I've downloaded the FW and made an ISO image however when installing it I get the following error:

30210

I've downloaded a recovery FW that I found somewhere else and it got it back to a state with no errors (FW isn't actually usable though, just there to recover after error like this)
After I got it back I tried again, same result, and then I tried an old disk I had with 4020 on from the last time I updated a year or 2 ago and it had the same issue.

Would this be caused by the mismatch I have shown earlier?


My part number is 1T0035680D and currently have FW 4120 on it.
However I saw on another site that my part number equates to HW Vehicle 0xC801, 0xCA01 or 0xCC01
But my problem is on my system info I have a HW vehicle of 0xC201.

[kamold]

Unfortunately that's likely faulty hardware. Unless you are handy with reading and writing eeproms you're best sending your unit for repair to someone like rns510repairserviceuk124.bravesite.com

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[Nivey]

Unfortunately that's likely faulty hardware. Unless you are handy with reading and writing eeproms you're best sending your unit for repair to someone like rns510repairserviceuk124.bravesite.com

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Ok,
Thanks for that.

Do you think it is related to the new Hard drive that was installed? As I assume it's still in warranty.
Either the issues standalone, or the way that it is showing a mismatch between the part number and the HW type?

[kamold]

No the hard drive is not related.

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[leeves75]

Hello, i have problem with a RNS 510 in an amarok i have recently purchased. Every time i turn on the vehicle i get a message saying the desired language could not be loaded, then another saying "The language could not be changed. No voice out possible please try to reload the required language". Once I hit ok everything works except the voice out. I have updated the map pack since these photos which did not help. I also downloaded the next firmware available 5274 but am uncertain of trying it due to stability issues i have read about and the possibility of losing my reverse camera and mfd. I have purchased a ross tech vcds lead and can access the CAN bus but was wondering if anyone has seen this before or can help with a solution.
My unit is a 1T0035680L, H09, 5269.
Thanks for your help anyone.
334113341233413

[kamold]

What if you go into language and select English (male) or English (female) whichever one you didn't have loaded before?
It should then prompt for the map CD to load the required files if they aren't found.
Failing that I would reload the firmware.
Yes there are some units that seem to have stability issues with 5274.
5238 is the most widely stable version across all units.
To load this you will need to enable software downgrade in the secret menu, or follow the prompts when trying to load a previous version.

[aka666]

Hi🙂 my RNS510 keeps restarting, only shows the VW welcome screen then reboots again as a cycle. Few days back it made it to the menu after like 5-10 minutes of rebooting, did a system reset, didn’t help as now it only reaches the welcome screen.
Can’t access the secret menu for the version. it is a EOS 2014 from Portugal.
Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

[kamold]

Hello, i have problem with a RNS 510 in an amarok i have recently purchased. Every time i turn on the vehicle i get a message saying the desired language could not be loaded, then another saying "The language could not be changed. No voice out possible please try to reload the required language". Once I hit ok everything works except the voice out. I have updated the map pack since these photos which did not help. I also downloaded the next firmware available 5274 but am uncertain of trying it due to stability issues i have read about and the possibility of losing my reverse camera and mfd. I have purchased a ross tech vcds lead and can access the CAN bus but was wondering if anyone has seen this before or can help with a solution.
My unit is a 1T0035680L, H09, 5269.
Thanks for your help anyone.
334113341233413

I think what might fix this is to load a 'factory' firmware image. This will delete EVERYTHING on the unit including the coding, maps, media, settings etc. But should also hopefully load all the files correctly.
Try the 'ORIG' version of 5238 linked off Maverick's site:
Volkswagen RNS 510 Firmware Download Repository | my-gti.com (http://www.my-gti.com/3868/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-download-repository)

[kamold]

Hi�� my RNS510 keeps restarting, only shows the VW welcome screen then reboots again as a cycle. Few days back it made it to the menu after like 5-10 minutes of rebooting, did a system reset, didn’t help as now it only reaches the welcome screen.
Can’t access the secret menu for the version. it is a EOS 2014 from Portugal.
Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

Try loading the 'josi fix' firmware. Then if the the unit is able to boot up, load 5238 ORIG.
If after loading the josi fix image the unit is still not able to boot then you likely have a hardware issue with the unit
Files are linked here:
Volkswagen RNS 510 Firmware Download Repository | my-gti.com (http://www.my-gti.com/3868/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-download-repository)

[aka666]

Hi Kamold ,
Which Josi fix should I try ?

“1xxx/2xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 2760_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.84mb”

Or

“3xxx/4xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 4020_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.9mb
(thanks to Josi for these fixe)” or other?

Thanks in advance.

[kamold]

Use the newer one

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[aka666]

Use the newer one

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Hi again 🙂

So I tried :
“3xxx/4xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 4020_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.9mb
(thanks to Josi for these fixe)”
Result was Gateway Error etc

Then I tried:

“It will attempt to restore a new SWL process and will enable it to boot up. (Thanks again to Josi)

Download Location 1: swl_fix.iso (3.75MB)”
Result was: ERROR 010301

Any thoughts ?

[kamold]

Hi again [emoji846]

So I tried :
“3xxx/4xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 4020_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.9mb
(thanks to Josi for these fixe)”
Result was Gateway Error etc

Then I tried:

“It will attempt to restore a new SWL process and will enable it to boot up. (Thanks again to Josi)

Download Location 1: swl_fix.iso (3.75MB)”
Result was: ERROR 010301

Any thoughts ?Make sure you are burning at slowest possible speed using imgburn or cdburnerxp

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[aka666]

Make sure you are burning at slowest possible speed using imgburn or cdburnerxp

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Hi,

I burned at *4 with imgburn, shows same
ERROR 010301 .I tried the fix and the 5238 same result.
Now when starts up it says: The System is not able to start up.
Please insert SWL-CD.

Any suggestions ?

[kamold]

Try DVD+R media instead of CD

[aka666]

Try DVD+R media instead of CD


Thank you I will try Verbatim, is it better to try Rewritable DVD or normal ?
More precisely which fix should I try before loading 5238, as I saw there are 3 different ones ?

“Unofficial SWL recovery CD
Download Location 1: swl_fix.iso (3.75MB)”

Or under

“Skoda Columbus (RNS 510) Fix

1xxx/2xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 2760_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.84mb

3xxx/4xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 4020_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.9mb
(thanks to Josi for these fixes)

Much appreciated 🙂

[kamold]

Thank you I will try Verbatim, is it better to try Rewritable DVD or normal ?
More precisely which fix should I try before loading 5238, as I saw there are 3 different ones ?

“Unofficial SWL recovery CD
Download Location 1: swl_fix.iso (3.75MB)”

Or under

“Skoda Columbus (RNS 510) Fix

1xxx/2xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 2760_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.84mb

3xxx/4xxx firmware
Download: Location 1
Filename: 4020_sk_fix.rar
Size: 3.9mb
(thanks to Josi for these fixes)

Much appreciated [emoji846]Try the last one.
I would use write once rather than rewritable.

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[leeves75]

Hello and thanks for the help, i finally got the courage to do the firmware downgrade to 5238 "ORIG". It went through with no problems but did not fix the issue and i got the same error messages about the languages. It actually kept all my map files too so i don't believe it did a full wipe of the system. After the downgrade i had lost my mdf display so i decided to check the coding. The coding had not changed after the downgrade but i tried to change a setting any way to make sure i was still able too do so, for some reason it would say code accepted but would not actually change?. I then tried upgrading back to 5269, which went through without an issue. I still didnt have my MDF display but it came back after a reset while the car was running. I was also once again able to change the coding in my unit with vcds and it would accept and change, but it hadn't changed anyway from what it was. I am back where i started with everything working again but still have the error about the languages every time i turn the unit on. Also just trying to change from english male to female does not solve the issue it just try's to load and crashes with the same error message.

[leeves75]

What if you go into language and select English (male) or English (female) whichever one you didn't have loaded before?
It should then prompt for the map CD to load the required files if they aren't found.
Failing that I would reload the firmware.
Yes there are some units that seem to have stability issues with 5274.
5238 is the most widely stable version across all units.
To load this you will need to enable software downgrade in the secret menu, or follow the prompts when trying to load a previous version.

Hello and thanks for the help, i finally got the courage to do the firmware downgrade to 5238 "ORIG". It went through with no problems but did not fix the issue and i got the same error messages about the languages. It actually kept all my map files too so i don't believe it did a full wipe of the system. After the downgrade i had lost my mdf display so i decided to check the coding. The coding had not changed after the downgrade but i tried to change a setting any way to make sure i was still able too do so, for some reason it would say code accepted but would not actually change?. I then tried upgrading back to 5269, which went through without an issue. I still didnt have my MDF display but it came back after a reset while the car was running. I was also once again able to change the coding in my unit with vcds and it would accept and change, but it hadn't changed anyway from what it was. I am back where i started with everything working again but still have the error about the languages every time i turn the unit on. Also just trying to change from english male to female does not solve the issue it just try's to load and crashes with the same error message.

[kamold]

Hello and thanks for the help, i finally got the courage to do the firmware downgrade to 5238 "ORIG". It went through with no problems but did not fix the issue and i got the same error messages about the languages. It actually kept all my map files too so i don't believe it did a full wipe of the system. After the downgrade i had lost my mdf display so i decided to check the coding. The coding had not changed after the downgrade but i tried to change a setting any way to make sure i was still able too do so, for some reason it would say code accepted but would not actually change?. I then tried upgrading back to 5269, which went through without an issue. I still didnt have my MDF display but it came back after a reset while the car was running. I was also once again able to change the coding in my unit with vcds and it would accept and change, but it hadn't changed anyway from what it was. I am back where i started with everything working again but still have the error about the languages every time i turn the unit on. Also just trying to change from english male to female does not solve the issue it just try's to load and crashes with the same error message.It doesn't sound like a proper factory firmware upgrade if your maps partition and coding was preserved.
Was this the update you used?
FW_5238_ORIG.iso (683,79 MB) - uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/u48pim74)

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[leeves75]

It doesn't sound like a proper factory firmware upgrade if your maps partition and coding was preserved.
Was this the update you used?
FW_5238_ORIG.iso (683,79 MB) - uploaded.net (http://uploaded.net/file/u48pim74)

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Hay Kamold, thanks again for the assistance. That is definitely the ISO i used i also downloaded it again just to be sure. I see there is a ISO that changes the harddrive size partitions maybe this will do a full wipe? also why do you think it would not let me recode the unit after i changed the firmware but would work again on 5269. Cheers.

[kamold]

Hay Kamold, thanks again for the assistance. That is definitely the ISO i used i also downloaded it again just to be sure. I see there is a ISO that changes the harddrive size partitions maybe this will do a full wipe? also why do you think it would not let me recode the unit after i changed the firmware but would work again on 5269. Cheers.

Check your email.
I've sent a link to a bunch of different firmware files.
I'm not sure which ones are factory and which aren't.
But you need to do more than just delete the hard drive contents. You need a full installation of firmware to all the flash modules in the RNS.
I would try downgrading to the earliest version first, then once everything is working upgrade to the usual 5238 with custom hard drive partition ratios.
If the earliest doesn't work, increment upwards until you get it working.