HID on polo gti

[gti_freak]

Has anyone installed it ? As i am going to do it, juz want to know how u guys going with it? gd?

[DaveMack]

Hmmm ... considered this ... then decided not to. Do you REALLY want ppl flashing their headlights at you wherever you go at night? :confused:

Worth thinking about.

Dave

[gti_freak]

As i really want to change the colour to BLUE

[DaveMack]

As i really want to change the colour to BLUE

Can be done a lot cheaper than with HIDs ... and without annoying oncoming drivers. I put Xenon bulbs in (not HIDs) from Philips ... approx. $100 to replace main and parkers. Claim to be twice as bright as OEM ... but I'm not sure they are. Can get those with a blue tint to them.

Dave

[insanekiwi]

Hi there, I also thought about HID...

But it's illegal in NZ, and I would rather keep my car legal at this stage. ;-)

Mainly due the reflective patterns and having no auto leveling function = meaning it will dazzle the drivers coming towards you.

Just like the way you hate the cars with retro fitted HID on your rear view mirror.

Very good website you can import bulbs from:
http://www.powerbulbs.com/

and also search for
PIAA H7 on ebay

Powerbulbs stick with main stream brands. The most expensive Philips I heard has good light / brightness, but if you want the blue hue / or the slight purple / pink that I have on my red GTI (looks nice, but not as bright as original) have a look into PIAA 8000k. I had one on my previous rides, and they had really nice blue hue just like HIDs. Never had problem with getting warrants. People did however flash at me, thinking that I had an HID, and I just gave them a high beam back!!

Anyway, putting HID in will also give you higher risk of fogging in the headlights on heavy rains / washing your car, as you need to get a hole made on the cover of the headlights (rubber cap)

[insanekiwi]

Also unless you get a kit with relay for VW / AUDIs, i heard you will get dash lights come on.

If you still want to go ahead with HID:

http://www.tigerstyle.co.uk/poloforum/viewtopic.php?t=34407&sid=bfafbce1946bac1498d58d201906a46f

(UK forum thread)

[dodgeGTI]

As i really want to change the colour to BLUE

I've got Phillips diamond vision globes and they have a really nice blue tint and are brighter than the stock globes. They'd be worth checking out.

[DubSteve]

Philips CrystalVision lights there really good and are a white/blue but really affective I found worth the $95.

You can find them in Supercheap and Autobahn usually.

[dodgeGTI]

Philips CrystalVision lights there really good and are a white/blue but really affective I found worth the $95.

You can find them in Supercheap and Autobahn usually.

I'd had both now and the Crystal vision look yellow in comparison to the diamond vision.

[gti_freak]

Hi there, I also thought about HID...

But it's illegal in NZ, and I would rather keep my car legal at this stage. ;-)

Mainly due the reflective patterns and having no auto leveling function = meaning it will dazzle the drivers coming towards you.

Just like the way you hate the cars with retro fitted HID on your rear view mirror.

Very good website you can import bulbs from:
http://www.powerbulbs.com/

and also search for
PIAA H7 on ebay

Powerbulbs stick with main stream brands. The most expensive Philips I heard has good light / brightness, but if you want the blue hue / or the slight purple / pink that I have on my red GTI (looks nice, but not as bright as original) have a look into PIAA 8000k. I had one on my previous rides, and they had really nice blue hue just like HIDs. Never had problem with getting warrants. People did however flash at me, thinking that I had an HID, and I just gave them a high beam back!!

Anyway, putting HID in will also give you higher risk of fogging in the headlights on heavy rains / washing your car, as you need to get a hole made on the cover of the headlights (rubber cap)

Is that mean i need to drill a hole in the rubber cap for those wires? seems like very complicated...:( anyone have tried that before, if you guys can give me illustration that would be great and also does it really cause fogging in the headlight on heavy rain ? anyone has experienced?
Thanks heaps!

[Ben_GTI]

I thought there was some legality issues here where by you can't fit HID's unless the car in other trim specs came with them to Aust?

Just a rumor I heard somewhere.

[PoloGTi]

http://www.clubvwpolo.es/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2713&forum=15
Here is a bit of a DIY lots of pics and its in spanish but bablefish can help.

[SoVeReIgN]

You can get 'xenon' globes (which are really just a load of rubbish) for your polo but you can't get a HID conversion because the polo headlights don't suit -
To run HIDS you need to have projector headlights, otherwise the xenon beam will be all over the shop.

See this pic below, the light on the outer edge is a projector (little bubble) and the light in the middle is your standard type.

http://www.vdubnut.com/337/337-headlight.jpg

And if you're not worried about having enough light to drive, one will blind people and get you in trouble with the cops, one wont. :)

[Soundofav6]

Is that mean i need to drill a hole in the rubber cap for those wires? seems like very complicated...:( anyone have tried that before, if you guys can give me illustration that would be great and also does it really cause fogging in the headlight on heavy rain ? anyone has experienced?
Thanks heaps!

NO complicated at all, if you do decide to go ahead with it. Dispite what people say, how annoying to others, legal issues all those, I still had it on. Honestly I have never had anyone falshing me nor pulled over.

This year if I can afford head light with projectors I will definately get them, for looks, nice clean cut for beam and finishing the job properly.

And no, my head lights never fogged up.

Here's a pic.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/01/DSC05096-1.jpg

[DaveMack]

Yeah ... but we're talking Pogo here ... very different light housings to the VR6.

Dave

[gti_freak]

is there any light bulb that is blue in colour but not HID.?
As i just want to change the colour, i don't care if the brightness is the same as the original one but ofcox not weaker than before.
Thanks heaps

[DaveMack]

Try this.

http://www.lighting.philips.com.au/au/en/Portal?xml=applications/app&fldr_id=96&fid=4555

Dave

[insanekiwi]

Legal = no.

Bright = yes.

Safe = yes and no due to the beam pattern (safe for you in terms of your driving, not safe for you in terms of others hitting you cuz they were blinded)

Fogging = Like Dave said, it's different from VR6. There is a rubber cap, you will need to use silicon like material to make it completely sealed. I said it will increase the chance of fogging, not definately cause it.

Resistor = some says that because of it's lower watt, the ECU thinks it blown, and will give you warning signs on dash, unless fitted with resistor.

Personally I would love to do it, but decided against at the end.

Unless there is a proper projector conversion lights coming out, I won't go there.

If you want blue / white tint, then try to bulbs recommended by above. Seems like Philips Diamond vision might be the go. Also try PIAA bulbs, they are expensive but I've used it for last 6 years on all my previous rides with fantastic results. 8000k will give you the exact colour you want. But the visibility in rain will not be as good as the factory colour / yellow hue. I would leave the fog lights stock in those events.

[GT3]

good post and advice kiwi ;)

[DubSteve]

I've got Phillips diamond vision globes and they have a really nice blue tint and are brighter than the stock globes. They'd be worth checking out.

Diamond Vision arre illegal Crystal Vision are not!

[ryan_GTI]

is 8000k safe for the headlight housing?

[pomme]

My mate got a cheapish set of bulbs online via ebay. They were really white. I don't know if he touched them when he put them in, or they were just really really cheap and nasty... but about 3 months after they went in, one exploded... left bits of glasses melted into the plastic housing everywhere, looked horrible... and kind of made me think twice about changing mine.

[insanekiwi]

Pomme,

Yes cheap bulbs can do that. Make sure you use set of latex gloves, and even with that try not to touch it. Expensive bulbs do last long time... PIAA lasted at least 2-3 years. Haven't had much experience with Philips ones.

8000k doesn't mean it will be hotter. Usually it's the wattage of the bulbs that will determine the temp. Some bulbs come 55w / even up to 100w. So definately avoid 100w.

HID is 35w, and should run cooler really.

GT3 - thanks :-)

Stock bulbs even though look ugly colour wise, it is quite bright.

[gti_freak]

For those with HID installed, please give us some feedback regarding it.
We appreciate that. :)

[DaveMack]

Not sure if anyone on the driving a Pogo and a member of the forum has completed this mod. For a start ... the reflector in the Pogo headlight would have to be completely replaced with the Projectors necessary for a proper HID installation ... not a small task in itself.

Dave

[PoloGTi]

Lets Email Hella and ask about what they recomend they make the lights.

[DaveMack]

Lets Email Hella and ask about what they recomend they make the lights.

Good thinking that man. :D

Dave

[ScottishPoloGTI]

heres a couple of pics of mine.
Sidelights : 501 1W LEDs
Dipped beam from HIDS4U.com : 6000K

Dipped Beam
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/01/Photo00271-1.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/kenny1601/Photo-0023-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/01/Photo00221-1.jpg



Sidelights
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/01/Photo0026-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/01/Photo0025-1.jpg

[BRU51N]

hey ScottishPoloGTI

did you get an error message on your on-board computer?

ive got a set here ready to be fitted, but if its gonna give me the error message i might reconsider.

p.s to all those ppl worried about ppl flashing you, why do you guys care what other ppl think of you? if u like them, get it done, dont not do it because other drivers are gonna flash you or whatever stupid reason.

[Y2008]

Legal = no.

Bright = yes.

Safe = yes and no due to the beam pattern (safe for you in terms of your driving, not safe for you in terms of others hitting you cuz they were blinded)

Fogging = Like Dave said, it's different from VR6. There is a rubber cap, you will need to use silicon like material to make it completely sealed. I said it will increase the chance of fogging, not definately cause it.

Resistor = some says that because of it's lower watt, the ECU thinks it blown, and will give you warning signs on dash, unless fitted with resistor.

Personally I would love to do it, but decided against at the end.

Unless there is a proper projector conversion lights coming out, I won't go there.

If you want blue / white tint, then try to bulbs recommended by above. Seems like Philips Diamond vision might be the go. Also try PIAA bulbs, they are expensive but I've used it for last 6 years on all my previous rides with fantastic results. 8000k will give you the exact colour you want. But the visibility in rain will not be as good as the factory colour / yellow hue. I would leave the fog lights stock in those events.



Even though I'm against installing taiwanese aftermarket headlights to replace the hellas, Depo have just released a projector headlight for polo. I think its a smart move from them because i wish it came with that option.

http://www.depo.com.tw/asp/pdf/200801.pdf

didn't find it anywhere else i guess its fairly new

cheers

[Kai]

Even though I'm against installing taiwanese aftermarket headlights to replace the hellas, Depo have just released a projector headlight for polo. I think its a smart move from them because i wish it came with that option.

http://www.depo.com.tw/asp/pdf/200801.pdf

didn't find it anywhere else i guess its fairly new

cheers

The one i saw on there isnt projector?

[Y2008]

my bad then, it didn't have any more details about the product and from the small photo it seemed like the low beam had a lense. I guess i saw what i was wishing for :) hope someone come up with it sometime soon

[leasaunce]

I would never put HID kit on the polo stock headlights. there are some headlights which are designed for HID but without projectors (eg; Lexus IS300, skyline r34). no matter how low you re-aimed the headlights, you'll still give glare to oncoming traffic

If you wanna be creative, do what I did. Retrofit. Did it to my Camry, 4years ago. I remembered when I got it first, it was awesome/cool, but then realizing oncoming traffic kept giving me high beams :( Since there's no aftermarket headlights for the camry, I retrofitted. not cheap though, but at leas you're doing something unique :D

here it is....(also gave the LED eye lids)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1233/camryow9.jpg

[GTIJNR]

I do have HID in mine for over a year now. 6000K type. Not once that ppl complain or flash at me. Its does produce a little bit of glare but not blinding. The ballast is mounted on front bumper support bar n hidden, wiring loom goes to the rubber cover behind head light. I have to re-aim the beam again after these were install using proper beam alignment tool which most workshop should have. The beam still not as sharp as standard H7 (depend on the quality of the HID kit or bulbs), but by using the head light height adjustment switch of the car, i can get a good spread of light on country road (max height) or city road (lowest height). I got friends to drive the polo and i drove in different car to test after, quite happy with result, will not go back to standard light...
Seen another white polo in melb inner city once with quad exhaust and HID on both head light and fog light... now that one really annoyed me as the HID was not adjusted properly and they were also 8000K, way too bright.
But if any one want to fit HIDs, my recommend are: get good quality kit, prefer 4000K as they MAY be legal (most factory HID are 4000K equipped) n aim properly after.

[GTIJNR]

Here are some pics

High setting:
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/705/23062008002ao0.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23062008002ao0.jpg)

Low setting:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9194/23062008003uy4.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23062008003uy4.jpg)

[Celestine]

Courtesy of Jon I have been trialling a set of Osram bulbs which is a cross between the Phillips Diamond Vision and Phillips Power2Night, which work very nicely (hopefully I can keep this set :biggrin:). Driving through darker patches (especially on the M1), you can really notice the difference between the stock headlights and the Osram bulbs. Saves all the messing around with wiring up the HID kit and also minimises other drivers high beaming you due to your HID's (I'm very anti HID and I intentionally get behind HID drivers and high beam them to let them get a dose of what it feels like).

Dont ask me when they will go on sale, and what varients they come in as they are only prototypes that arent officially on the market. Anyway enough said... Here is a picture of the bulbs installed. Left is the Osrams and the right is the stock bulbs. These bulbs dont seem to affect the people in front of you (alleged reports according to Jon and another friend Adam).

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/06/Comparison-2.jpg

[Matt P]

(I'm very anti HID and I intentionally get behind HID drivers and high beam them to let them get a dose of what it feels like).


i hope youre reffering to retrofitted chinese ebay kits, if you mean cars that come like it, i'd like to :brutal:

anyway, for the ricers in here, please say hello to pogo projector lights http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-POLO-MK7-05-BLACK-ANGEL-EYE-PROJECTOR-HEAD-LIGHTS_W0QQitemZ380040103636QQihZ025QQcategoryZ230 09QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Celestine]

The only car that physically comes standard with HID's is the Honda Accord (I personally dont like Honda's full stop).

I personally dispise ricers that think that HID's are a must and are cool. Truth is the dodgy chinese kits have less light intensity than your stock bulbs!

Most Euro's with excessively bright headlights arent HID's but rather Xenons. Furthermore, Euro's with Xenons have auto leveling, which helps the person in front not get blinded by your headlights.

[Sharkie]

Did anyone have a look at those projector lights?

They actually look quite good ...... mmmmm ......

It will be a totally distinctive look once fitted .......

[DubSteve]

The only car that physically comes standard with HID's is the Honda Accord (I personally dont like Honda's full stop).


Err don't forget that BMW, Mercedes also have these as Standards as well as mk4r32s!

People shouldn't have HID's if they don't have the correct lights ie projector lights;)

[Flaps]

Did anyone have a look at those projector lights?

They actually look quite good ...... mmmmm ......

It will be a totally distinctive look once fitted .......

Yes. However I don't want to be the guinea pig haha

[Timbo]

Yes. However I don't want to be the guinea pig haha

Ha ha...folks...you read it here first!

Go on Sean....you know you want to :biggrin:

[Flaps]

I like my rice fried and not on my car. ;)

[Timbo]

As long as you remember the obvious bit -- that people have different tastes -- even in rice ;)

[GTIJNR]

Hey those projectors doesn't look too bad lmao... nah, the vw headlight are great, wouldn't pull it out n put those cheap one in unless its broken... btw, i drove in front, side by side, head on direction while some one drove mine many time n made adjustment till i'm happy that no one would get offensive of my head light. Seen blinding standard HID? look in to Chrysler 300C head on... I had camry sportivo came up behind me and i had to move out of the way cos of his blindly unadjusted hid... I'm happy with my, drove back from phillip island one night and its was so nice to see the road properly...

[Celestine]

Err don't forget that BMW, Mercedes also have these as Standards as well as mk4r32s!

Err, I was more than certain that BMW's and Mercs are xenons, but I guess I stand corrected.

[pologti18t]

Err, I was more than certain that BMW's and Mercs are xenons, but I guess I stand corrected.


HIDs are usually optional on the lower range of BMW (1, 3 and 5 series) and Mercs(a,b,c,e class)

[Vdubboys81]

The only car that physically comes standard with HID's is the Honda Accord (I personally dont like Honda's full stop).

I personally dispise ricers that think that HID's are a must and are cool. Truth is the dodgy chinese kits have less light intensity than your stock bulbs!

Most Euro's with excessively bright headlights arent HID's but rather Xenons. Furthermore, Euro's with Xenons have auto leveling, which helps the person in front not get blinded by your headlights.

Xenons are HIDs. Xenon is just the specific gas that is used in a High Intensity Discharge bulb. Most people use the term interchangeably. So cars from Europe, Japan etc that use headlamps one step up from halogens are using HID headlights. ;-) I know confusing

[safetyman]

Aftermarket hids are illegal unless fitted with projector glass AND washers, same as all cars fitted with HID's as standard.
The washers are there to reduce glare for oncoming vehicles.