Traffic Jam Assist

[Enobar]

According to the website, all Oz-Spec Superbs with the "Tech Pack" comes with traffic jam assist which I understand not only starts/stops in traffic but also steers. So far I have not yet seemed to get this to work though... Can someone with this feature tell if it indicates when its active? - I assumed that the lane departure warning light would be green to indicate that it can detect the road markings, but i find mine always stays orange when below 65kph.

I can't find anywhere to turn this setting on or off... I have been using it with lane assist switched on and engaging the cruise control. I know you have to pull the lever towards you when traffic moves etc, but i just haven't noticed it trying to steer at all.

[bego9]

You can turn it on or off the same function that you use for adaptive cruise control.

I don't think it can steer though.
I never know or try it can steer.

[dec76]

it is the same process as ACC, the difference is that it will continue below 65kph with the lane assist active. Like the car with adaptive crjuise active, the lane assist will tell you to take over steering if steering wheel not held for 12 seconds.
There is nowhere to activate or turn off the Traffic jam assist
Heath

[Enobar]

So you're saying that if i had it activated on the motorway and then the traffic dropped below 65kph it would keep working, but if you go from under 65kph you can't turn it on? I kind of wondered if that would work.. but it is such a specific circumstance that I've not yet been able to test that out... everytime I think of it I'm already in crawling traffic lol.

[skodian]

So you're saying that if i had it activated on the motorway and then the traffic dropped below 65kph it would keep working, but if you go from under 65kph you can't turn it on? I kind of wondered if that would work.. but it is such a specific circumstance that I've not yet been able to test that out... everytime I think of it I'm already in crawling traffic lol.


Coming from the Audi background but I think the all VAG algorithm should be the same.
I think if you drop below 35km (In Audi case) them it will trigger Traffic Jam assists where steering and distance control together . It will take you to a completely stop if required and start the engine if you are in stop/start mode
the only thing you need is to gently step on the Gas pedal and the traffic jam assist will continue the distance control again

Becareful with traffic jam assist and lane assist + distance control as you may run some red lights

[Andysuew]

Well, after struggling through the peak hour traffic to and from work today, I can confirm the following.

With ACC switch on and engaged in traffic jam mode, the lane assist was switched on (orange indication) but would not self steer until I reached 65kph. Then the lane assist indication switched to green and self steer became active. The traffic stop start between Brisbane and the Gold Coast went on for over 1hour, so there was plenty of time to test the system over and over.

Bottom line, no self steer until you reach 65kph or over in the Aussie spec Superb.

[skodian]

Well, after struggling through the peak hour traffic to and from work today, I can confirm the following.

With ACC switch on and engaged in traffic jam mode, the lane assist was switched on (orange indication) but would not self steer until I reached 65kph. Then the lane assist indication switched to green and self steer became active. The traffic stop start between Brisbane and the Gold Coast went on for over 1hour, so there was plenty of time to test the system over and over.

Bottom line, no self steer until you reach 65kph or over in the Aussie spec Superb.

With ACC switch on and engaged in traffic jam mode, the lane assist was switched on (orange indication) but would not self steer until I reached 65kph. Then the lane assist indication switched to green and self steer became active. The traffic stop start between Brisbane and the Gold Coast went on for over 1hour, so there was plenty of time to test the system over and over.

Bottom line, no self steer until you reach 65kph or over in the Aussie spec Superb.[/QUOTE]

Hmm interesting...

According to the online manual (Å*KODA Superb - Owner's manuals - Å*KODA (http://www.skoda-auto.com/en/mini-apps/owners-manuals/pages/superb.aspx))

The system activation occurs automatically whilst fulfilling the following basic
conditions.
Lane Assist with the adaptive tracking is enabled, the boundary lines on
both sides are recognized lane » page 243.
ACC is activated and the regulation » page 233 follows.
The vehicle speed is below 65 km/h.


I could not say for Skoda but for Audi it only works with auto steering only if it picks the lane (via the lane assist)
Basically it's a Lane assist + ACC but more intensive (slower and closer towards the front vehicle) under lower speed.
Once the car completely stopped in the traffic,
it will also start the engine again when it detects the front vehicle moves and I only need to start moving the car with triggering(hitting) the accelerator slightly.

According to the manual

Starting to drive again after a holding period
As soon as the vehicle ahead starts moving again after a holding period, your
vehicle will also move and the speed will continue to be regulated.

If the preceding vehicle starts moving again after a long break, then to continue
the regulation press the accelerator pedal or lever to set the lever in
» page 235 position.

[2009fsi]

Well, after struggling through the peak hour traffic to and from work today, I can confirm the following.

With ACC switch on and engaged in traffic jam mode, the lane assist was switched on (orange indication) but would not self steer until I reached 65kph. Then the lane assist indication switched to green and self steer became active. The traffic stop start between Brisbane and the Gold Coast went on for over 1hour, so there was plenty of time to test the system over and over.

Bottom line, no self steer until you reach 65kph or over in the Aussie spec Superb.

G'day Andysuew,
Most of what is written above misses the point, if the Lane Assist indicator is orange, it means it can't activate because it can't recognise the road makings needed to centre in the lane. If it is green, it works. Fact of life in Australia is, our roads are often poorly marked. It requires a line on both sides of the car to recognise a lane. Lane assist works at any speed as long as it can recognise a lane marking on each side. I've tried it at 110kph on a curving road. After 11 seconds of not detecting the weight on the steering of you holding the wheel, it alarms & slows, if you don't immediately grab the wheel. Be very wary of relying on lane assist on our roads where left turns are strongly marked with white lines turning the corner. The car will try to follow it in the absence pf a through line on the left side.

Traffic jam assist relies on the front radar & the sensors around the car. It is activated below 65ks, will start & stop you if you let it do the breaking etc. Restating from stop depends on you not touching anything while stopped. Of course it doesn't recognise red lights or stop signs, so you have to remain vigilant. The other factor which effects how well Traffic Jam Assist works is how sensitive your sensors are set, If you are a regular commuter in traffic, go into settings & set Driver Assist sensitivity as 'Very Close' & tick 'use last setting'. If you don't, the car will sit waiting an eternity before following the car in front & will be braking way before necessary.
Hope that helps.

[Enobar]

G'day Andysuew,
Most of what is written above misses the point, if the Lane Assist indicator is orange, it means it can't activate because it can't recognise the road makings needed to centre in the lane. If it is green, it works. Fact of life in Australia is, our roads are often poorly marked. It requires a line on both sides of the car to recognise a lane. Lane assist works at any speed as long as it can recognise a lane marking on each side. I've tried it at 110kph on a curving road. After 11 seconds of not detecting the weight on the steering of you holding the wheel, it alarms & slows, if you don't immediately grab the wheel. Be very wary of relying on lane assist on our roads where left turns are strongly marked with white lines turning the corner. The car will try to follow it in the absence pf a through line on the left side.

Traffic jam assist relies on the front radar & the sensors around the car. It is activated below 65ks, will start & stop you if you let it do the breaking etc. Restating from stop depends on you not touching anything while stopped. Of course it doesn't recognise red lights or stop signs, so you have to remain vigilant. The other factor which effects how well Traffic Jam Assist works is how sensitive your sensors are set, If you are a regular commuter in traffic, go into settings & set Driver Assist sensitivity as 'Very Close' & tick 'use last setting'. If you don't, the car will sit waiting an eternity before following the car in front & will be braking way before necessary.
Hope that helps.


So far I've not come across anyone successfully using the system in OZ (i.e. the light going green) below 65kph. I believe (though I could be mistaken) that there have been instances where i've driven the same stretch of the road above 65kph where it has gone green, and below 65 where it has stayed orange which indicates to me that it does not activate at those low speeds. From what I can gather, I think this means that our 'traffic jam assist' is not actually properly activated in Oz even though the brochure indicates it should be.

[Vexed]

I can say it is activated and working in OZ... From my experience, when I had ACC active with Lane departure assist (green light on),the car automatically stops when I reach very slow traffic (on a highway exit for example)... I have noticed that the greenlight turns amber and "ACC Ready" message appears on maxidot screen... When traffic starts moving, my car start following and steering along the highway... That's all I can remember :D

[Enobar]

I can say it is activated and working in OZ... From my experience, when I had ACC active with Lane departure assist (green light on),the car automatically stops when I reach very slow traffic (on a highway exit for example)... I have noticed that the greenlight turns amber and "ACC Ready" message appears on maxidot screen... When traffic starts moving, my car start following and steering along the highway... That's all I can remember :D

Oh ok, so yours does steer at low speeds then even with the Amber light on?

[Vexed]

Oh ok, so yours does steer at low speeds then even with the Amber light on?


I believe that is correct...

[Enobar]

Hmmm.... I just assumed tere would be an indication it had control (or was assisting at least) the steering - like with a green lane assist light.

clearly more experimentation on my part is required... :-D

[Vexed]

Hmmm.... I just assumed tere would be an indication it had control (or was assisting at least) the steering - like with a green lane assist light.

clearly more experimentation on my part is required... :-D


I thought so as well, I just couldn't find any setting to enable it... And then I discovered it by coincidence on the way from Sydney to Port Macquarie :)

[Andysuew]

So far I've not come across anyone successfully using the system in OZ (i.e. the light going green) below 65kph. I believe (though I could be mistaken) that there have been instances where i've driven the same stretch of the road above 65kph where it has gone green, and below 65 where it has stayed orange which indicates to me that it does not activate at those low speeds. From what I can gather, I think this means that our 'traffic jam assist' is not actually properly activated in Oz even though the brochure indicates it should be.

Absolutly agree with you Enobar. After double checking my setting as per 2009fsi suggested, mine is behaving exactly the same as yours, has done since I picked it a month ago. My vehicle was built Jan 2017 and delivered here in April. Not sure on your build/year, but I think it's mid last year. Strange that both cars are running the same software 6+ months apart. Maybe this issue is only related to the 206 version.

[Vexed]

Absolutly agree with you Enobar. After double checking my setting as per 2009fsi suggested, mine is behaving exactly the same as yours, has done since I picked it a month ago. My vehicle was built Jan 2017 and delivered here in April. Not sure on your build/year, but I think it's mid last year. Strange that both cars are running the same software 6+ months apart. Maybe this issue is only related to the 206 version.


Mine is 206.

[Andysuew]

Enobar & Vexed, are you guys running the same software/hardware as I am??
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[dec76]

Here is My Jan 2016 Built 140TDI Wagon with Tech/Comfort Pack in traffic jam assist mode with ACC and Lane Assist active at 50kmh.

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[Andysuew]

Here is My Jan 2016 Built 140TDI Wagon with Tech/Comfort Pack in traffic jam assist mode with ACC and Lane Assist active at 50kmh.
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Well, it looks like Enobar and myself have a visit coming up at the dealer. Will be interesting to see what they have to say.
dec 76, are you running the same hardware (H50) and software (0836) ?????

[bego9]

This is interesting.
I would like to know the hardware and software version as well.

@dec76
Could you please let us know your situation?
situation 1. Did you drive along the freeway with ACC active (green) and line assist (green) set to 100km and then you've got traffic jam then you set ACC speed to 50km but the lane assist still green? or

Situation 2. Was this drive in the normal road on the right side of the two lanes? you just set ACC speed as 50km and line assist (green) as well.
note: because sometimes on the normal road, line assist doesn't detect the left side especially if you drive on the left next to the kerb.

or different situation??

I can turn on/activate ACC (green) less than 60km but the lane assist shows orange color. I normally drive on the left side next to the kerb.

edit: mine Aug 2016 build superb wagon 162tsi tech pack.

[blueSup]

Have a watch of this one. Traffic and freeway. Notice the colour of the lines on the maxidot when on the freeway.
I just figured that the 2nd world lane markings around these parts were the cause of the system not working as expected.
https://youtu.be/sbXOLvUnzTg

[bego9]

It doesn't work with my car. As soon as it drops below 65km then the lane assist change to orange.

Edit: I am guessing the lines on the maxidot both appear orange because of no broken lane marking.
The beginning part is broken line but still active for the traffic jam to work.

I just service my car and explained but the lady wasn't helpful/no idea.

[zei20t]

OK, I tried this in traffic, works well except for one thing. once ive completely stopped, I need to tap the throttle to get the car moving again. I thought it would take off once the gap opened up. but it appears I need to concentrate on driving :P

[cyberkank]

OK, I tried this in traffic, works well except for one thing. once ive completely stopped, I need to tap the throttle to get the car moving again. I thought it would take off once the gap opened up. but it appears I need to concentrate on driving :P

Does your car have the lane assist active under 65km/h so the car knows to keep within the lane? I called up Skoda and they seem to be clueless about the feature.
One of the tech from the dealer suggested that this feature is not available in Australia and the brochure is a misprint, but he is not 100% sure.

[cyberkank]

Ok, I've just received a call from Skoda. They've confirmed that it is a software issue regarding the "traffic jam assist" not working properly. The lane assist should be "green" under 65km/h if ACC is active. Apparently this is part of a "recall" campaign for my car (MY 17, DEC16). So I need to book in to a workshop for them to update the software for me.
I'll be taking it to the work shop in a week and a bit, will let you guys know how it goes.
I suggest if your "Traffic Jam Assist is not working" then contact your dealer to get the software fix.

[blueSup]

Cyberkank, don't forget to take some pictures of the system version numbers before and after the fix.

[cyberkank]

Cyberkank, don't forget to take some pictures of the system version numbers before and after the fix.

Thanks for the tips. I'll remember to do that.
There's also another recall regarding something in the boot trim being non AUS compliance, so they have to fix that too.

[Ozsko]

OK, I tried this in traffic, works well except for one thing. once ive completely stopped, I need to tap the throttle to get the car moving again. I thought it would take off once the gap opened up. but it appears I need to concentrate on driving :P

TJA is not working if that is the case.

[Andysuew]

Ok, I've just received a call from Skoda. They've confirmed that it is a software issue regarding the "traffic jam assist" not working properly. The lane assist should be "green" under 65km/h if ACC is active. Apparently this is part of a "recall" campaign for my car (MY 17, DEC16). So I need to book in to a workshop for them to update the software for me.
I'll be taking it to the work shop in a week and a bit, will let you guys know how it goes.
I suggest if your "Traffic Jam Assist is not working" then contact your dealer to get the software fix.


Did Skoda supply you with a recall notice for this. Mine and Enobar's is doing the same thing as yours?

[blueSup]

Mine too! The green icon turns pesky yellow under 65kph.

[cyberkank]

Did Skoda supply you with a recall notice for this. Mine and Enobar's is doing the same thing as yours?

No, they didn't. Bit dissapointed with that. I had to talk to Skoda's dealer technician and he had no clue of TJA feature until I pointed it out in the brochure and then he had to call Skoda Australia to find out what is going on.
Then I got a phone call from the dealer's technician the next day and said that Skoda Australia confirmed there's a fault with the current software where TJA is not working. So thats why he asked me to take the car in for a software update and also there's an active recall regarding rear trim that needs fixing.

I will suggest anyone with TJA, if it is not working (i.e. not having green light under 65km/h while ACC is active) to contact their dealer and explain to them. Skoda probably wants to keep it "hush hush" until your next service where they miraculously "fix" the issue without you knowing there was one in the first place to keep their reputation in tack.

[Enobar]

Very interesting.... I have my car booked into the dealer for some rattle resolution in a week so I'll have them look at this

[Enobar]

Phoned my dealership today, they confirmed the 2 recalls and that it will be fixed for me next Monday. Yay! New feature coming to my car! Lol.

[Andysuew]

Phoned my dealership today, they confirmed the 2 recalls and that it will be fixed for me next Monday. Yay! New feature coming to my car! Lol.

Let us know how you go. Don't forget to take photo of software before & after to confirm update����

[bego9]

@Enobar Please let us know the 2 recalls number or code. Thanks.

[cyberkank]

Phoned my dealership today, they confirmed the 2 recalls and that it will be fixed for me next Monday. Yay! New feature coming to my car! Lol.
Shouldn't the recall process be "Them calling us" not us calling them. Anyhow, good that it is getting sorted soon. My one is going in Monday, will test out this new "traffic jam" feature.

[cyberkank]

My car just got updated with the Traffic Jam software. It is totally awesome, the lane keeping is a lot more "active" than before, it will provide a lot more guidance if you activate both ACC and Lane Keeping Assist. Nearly to the point of autonomous driving. I drove about 50km of highway driving in peak hour traffic with little or no intervention. Very impressed with the feature.
Once ACC & Lane Keeping Assist is activated. The Lane keeping assist icon should stay green regardless of speed (providing it can detect lanes).

[Enobar]

Sounds great. I suspect that the problem is actually that our cars were specced wrong for Australia. If you look at overseas, they have 'Lane Assist' and 'Active Lane Assist with Traffic Jam Assist'. I think that our cars left the factory specced as plain old Lane Assist. I think this 'software update' may be enabling the proper settings. Just a hunch though... My car had a sleep over at the dealer last night as they wanted more time to fix the rattles that are torturing me - I gladly agreed since I feel they're actually putting real effort into it instead of fobbing me off.

[bego9]

@cyber what did you say to the dealer to get it fix? Is there any specific update that I need to mention to the service dealer to get it up to date? Thanks

[blueSup]

@cyberkank - did you take pictures of the before and after software versions from the Infotainment? If not, what are the version numbers now?

[Enobar]

@cyber what did you say to the dealer to get it fix? Is there any specific update that I need to mention to the service dealer to get it up to date? Thanks

I just got mine done - I rang the dealer and told him that there were 2 recalls applicable to the car and if they weren't sure they could contact Skoda Australia - they told me they were aware of them. One is for the Traffic Jam Assist, one for something to do with the tail gate trim - I am unsure what it was.

I believe that my suspicions were correct - our cars were incorrectly specced with regular lane assist instead of adaptive lane assist and this recall has fixed it. I have a new option in my Drivers Assistance menu as you can see from the photo which is 'Adaptive Lane Guidance'. I swear it was not there before. Now when I have it engaged, there are 2 yellow lines either side of the roadway in the maxidot display. The lane assist is now far less bouncing from one line to the other within the lane like a drunk driver and properly active in tracking the car down the centre. Also at speeds under 60kph, the lane assist will activate - provided the car is on cruise control - it remains off when you are operating the go faster pedal yourself. The lane assist light also goes green under 60 with cruise active.

If you haven't booked your car into a dealer yet get onto it because its definitely worth while. Also, in case we have any active members of the Skoda forum who like to spend their work days dressed in Blue, I would like to point out that the below photo was taken by my (rather disinterested) passenger who obediently took photos of in spite of his protests that 'no one will really be interested in your dash instruments surely'. So please, vote your interest below so that I can show him repeated posts with my commentary 'i told you so'. Apologies that they are sideways/upside down... not sure why they've done that.

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[bego9]

@Enobar
Thanks for the info and photos. I vote for you it will help us to show it to the dealer :)
I read that Adaptive lane guidance in the manual and yes, I didn't have that one and guessing that is related to this traffic jam assist.
I am going to send email to service dealer to request this update provided they know about this recall.

Did you ask about the chirp acoustic confirmation when lock/unlock?

[Ozsko]

@Enobar


Did you ask about the chirp acoustic confirmation when lock/unlock?

I seem to vaguely remember that when the chirp thing began to appear the law was changed to outlaw it. I may be wrong there but that is my memory because every burglar alarm used to do it.

[cyberkank]

@cyber what did you say to the dealer to get it fix? Is there any specific update that I need to mention to the service dealer to get it up to date? Thanks
I just told them that the "Traffic Jam Assist" did not work according to what it was described in the manual. The dealer had no clue at the start and thought I was talking about the Lane keeping assist. But I showed him in teh manual regarding the Traffic Jam Assist function. but then they contacted Skoda Australia and confirmed that it is a "recall" for Australia car.
There is also another recall that is currently active for the superb. Which involves removing a phone reception in the trunk which doesn't comply with Australian regulation.
The dealer fixed the two issues in 1 day.

[cyberkank]

I just got mine done - I rang the dealer and told him that there were 2 recalls applicable to the car and if they weren't sure they could contact Skoda Australia - they told me they were aware of them. One is for the Traffic Jam Assist, one for something to do with the tail gate trim - I am unsure what it was.

I believe that my suspicions were correct - our cars were incorrectly specced with regular lane assist instead of adaptive lane assist and this recall has fixed it. I have a new option in my Drivers Assistance menu as you can see from the photo which is 'Adaptive Lane Guidance'. I swear it was not there before. Now when I have it engaged, there are 2 yellow lines either side of the roadway in the maxidot display. The lane assist is now far less bouncing from one line to the other within the lane like a drunk driver and properly active in tracking the car down the centre. Also at speeds under 60kph, the lane assist will activate - provided the car is on cruise control - it remains off when you are operating the go faster pedal yourself. The lane assist light also goes green under 60 with cruise active.

If you haven't booked your car into a dealer yet get onto it because its definitely worth while. Also, in case we have any active members of the Skoda forum who like to spend their work days dressed in Blue, I would like to point out that the below photo was taken by my (rather disinterested) passenger who obediently took photos of in spite of his protests that 'no one will really be interested in your dash instruments surely'. So please, vote your interest below so that I can show him repeated posts with my commentary 'i told you so'. Apologies that they are sideways/upside down... not sure why they've done that.

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Yep, spot on. I've been looking up VW forums and only "Adaptive Lane Guidance" gives you Traffic Jam Assist.
Based on the information I got from the Tiguan forum, apparently it is only specific hardware that can do the "Lane Guidance". The Tiguan cannot do it due to the AUS car do not have the hardware to do the "Lane Guidance", so they are stuck with just Lane keeping assist.

[cyberkank]

@cyberkank - did you take pictures of the before and after software versions from the Infotainment? If not, what are the version numbers now?

I didn't take pic, but have got the version logged down before/after the update. Will have a dig at the file to see the differences.

[Enobar]

@cyberkank - did you take pictures of the before and after software versions from the Infotainment? If not, what are the version numbers now?


Which version numbers are you referring to? The ones from car ->settings -> system information (from memory..) I took photos of before and after and I don't think they changed. I'm wondering if i'm looking in the right bit or if my version numbers only refer to the sat nav database...

[cyberkank]

I just did a throughout check using obdeleven. The difference is not in the software version. There is slight change of internal hardware version for the central electric and also some difference in the coding for the front radar system.

Sent from my LG-H990 using Tapatalk

[blueSup]

If I head into Settings -> System Settings -> System Information I get Hardware: H50 Software: 0702 and the rest relates to the navigation and maps.
Given that it's just coding changes, I wonder if VCDS could help me with it?

[Ozsko]

Yep, spot on. I've been looking up VW forums and only "Adaptive Lane Guidance" gives you Traffic Jam Assist.
Based on the information I got from the Tiguan forum, apparently it is only specific hardware that can do the "Lane Guidance". The Tiguan cannot do it due to the AUS car do not have the hardware to do the "Lane Guidance", so they are stuck with just Lane keeping assist.

The word from some people in VW is that they are debating whether to enable TJA on the Tiguan and has been done on the Superb so it must have all the required equipment on it. Other countries receiving the Tiguan had TJA enabled.

[Andysuew]

I just got mine done - I rang the dealer and told him that there were 2 recalls applicable to the car and if they weren't sure they could contact Skoda Australia - they told me they were aware of them. One is for the Traffic Jam Assist, one for something to do with the tail gate trim - I am unsure what it was.

I believe that my suspicions were correct - our cars were incorrectly specced with regular lane assist instead of adaptive lane assist and this recall has fixed it. I have a new option in my Drivers Assistance menu as you can see from the photo which is 'Adaptive Lane Guidance'. I swear it was not there before. Now when I have it engaged, there are 2 yellow lines either side of the roadway in the maxidot display. The lane assist is now far less bouncing from one line to the other within the lane like a drunk driver and properly active in tracking the car down the centre. Also at speeds under 60kph, the lane assist will activate - provided the car is on cruise control - it remains off when you are operating the go faster pedal yourself. The lane assist light also goes green under 60 with cruise active.

If you haven't booked your car into a dealer yet get onto it because its definitely worth while. Also, in case we have any active members of the Skoda forum who like to spend their work days dressed in Blue, I would like to point out that the below photo was taken by my (rather disinterested) passenger who obediently took photos of in spite of his protests that 'no one will really be interested in your dash instruments surely'. So please, vote your interest below so that I can show him repeated posts with my commentary 'i told you so'. Apologies that they are sideways/upside down... not sure why they've done that.

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Spoke to the dealer in South Brisbane today, i asked them about the recall for TJA, and they knew about it. Booked the car in for next Wednesday so we will see how they perform. Looking forward to the upgrade.

[mrd]

Did you get your car upgrade done? I got mine done today with the dealer in south Brisbane and I have absolutely no difference in my car.

I forgot to check system information before but now it says:

Harware: H50
Software: 0836

I had 2 campaigns 'done' to my car

CAMPAIGN 91Q4 - Signal Amplifier
CAMPAIGN 96F4 - Update Camera Control Unit


But neither seem to have fixed the TJA. Still goes disappointingly to amber below 65kph


(162TSI wagon (+tech+comfort))

[Enobar]

Did you get your car upgrade done? I got mine done today with the dealer in south Brisbane and I have absolutely no difference in my car.

I forgot to check system information before but now it says:

Harware: H50
Software: 0836

I had 2 campaigns 'done' to my car

CAMPAIGN 91Q4 - Signal Amplifier
CAMPAIGN 96F4 - Update Camera Control Unit


But neither seem to have fixed the TJA. Still goes disappointingly to amber below 65kph


(162TSI wagon (+tech+comfort))

just checking, but you know it only works below 65kph while cruise is active right? Make sure you're trying it with cruise control on.

[mrd]

Yep. I had the ACC on and set to 80 and still no go. There is also no "Adaptive Lane Guidance" menu option showing.

[mrd]

Yep. I had the ACC on and set to 80 and still no go. There is also no "Adaptive Lane Guidance" menu option showing.

[Enobar]

Hmmm, talk to the dealer.... it doesn't sound like they did it right

[mrd]

Yeah I emailed them again when I got home (after they closed) so will see what they say tomorrow.

[cyberkank]

Yep. I had the ACC on and set to 80 and still no go. There is also no "Adaptive Lane Guidance" menu option showing.

Sounds like it is not working correctly. I'll contact the dealer and show them some video of it actually working properly.

[Andysuew]

I finally got the recall flash done for the Adaptive Lane Guidance and it works perfectly. With ACC engaged, the Lane Assist stays green right down to nearly 5kph. The active steer is more fluid than before and keeps the car in the centre of the lane compared to bouncing of the line markings.

The dealer didn't switch the system on via the infotainment unit so at first I didn't think they had done the upgrade. Mind you they didn't even mention anything about controlling via the infotainment system, so I suspect they really didn't understand what they were doing.

It was only the information supplied via the this & Briskoda forums that I knew it had to be selected to operate.

[Enobar]

It was only the information supplied via the this & Briskoda forums that I knew it had to be selected to operate.


Yeah, forums are a godsend for car owners - many dealers I'm sure see them as a curse though... the good ones should use it as a resource.

Just curious about your signature though - what do you mean by "full LED conversion?" Did you change your Xenons to LED or just the everything else? I've done the door courtesy lights, glovebox, boot lights & reverse lights. Haven't done indicators yet and I am in the process of doing fogs but I'm having huge trouble with removing the access caps. Plan b is to use ramps and remove the plate to get access from below.

[mrd]

So what is the hardware and software version now that it's done on your systems? And what were the campaign codes that you got done on your cars?

[mrd]

Heard back from the dealer. Yeah... the patch wasn't done due to a problem with the Skoda upgrade server. Booked in to get done a week on Friday.

[Enobar]

Doesn't that drive you nuts? Why not actually just tell you that when you picked the car up?? Would save a lot of confusion..

[mrd]

You better believe it does.

Especially since he got back to me with "as you were told at the time".... no I wasn't. And if they knew at the time the patching hadn't been done, why does the invoice say "Campaign carried out".

I said to him that should be a concern to you that you invoiced me for work you said was carried out... which wasn't. That it was $0 cost is neither here nor there. What I didn't say to him but which I hope he realised is obvious is how the hell can I trust a dealer that says they've carried out work on the invoice when they haven't?

I made your point to him as well: if I had been told at the time I would have been frustrated but understand these things can happen when talking software and updates. I wouldn't have been happy but would have understood. As it so happens I am now deeply suspicious of this place and their 'ethical' practices. Not a good first experience.

At least because they screwed up - and at my suggestion - I get a loan car out of it for my next visit instead of having to do buses and arrange lifts to/from work which made life awkward.

[Ozsko]

Cross posted, ignore me.

[cyberkank]

You better believe it does.

Especially since he got back to me with "as you were told at the time".... no I wasn't. And if they knew at the time the patching hadn't been done, why does the invoice say "Campaign carried out".

I said to him that should be a concern to you that you invoiced me for work you said was carried out... which wasn't. That it was $0 cost is neither here nor there. What I didn't say to him but which I hope he realised is obvious is how the hell can I trust a dealer that says they've carried out work on the invoice when they haven't?

I made your point to him as well: if I had been told at the time I would have been frustrated but understand these things can happen when talking software and updates. I wouldn't have been happy but would have understood. As it so happens I am now deeply suspicious of this place and their 'ethical' practices. Not a good first experience.

At least because they screwed up - and at my suggestion - I get a loan car out of it for my next visit instead of having to do buses and arrange lifts to/from work which made life awkward.


My Skoda dealer here in SA gives out loan car (brand new skoda Fabia) for every service / repair / recall. I thought it was part of Skoda ownership?

[mrd]

I thought it would have been too but the woman I dealt with initially said no loan car for a recall, only services. Hrm.

Feels pretty substandard. A tiny saving for them with a BIG impact on my impression of them. (Never mind what has happened subsequent to that)

[Andysuew]

So what is the hardware and software version now that it's done on your systems? And what were the campaign codes that you got done on your cars?

Hardware is 050 and software is 0836. This hasn't changed since I took delivery of the car. Campaign codes is something it don't have. The dealer never gave me any paperwork or invoice when I collected the car. When was the last time you didn't get any paperwork from a dealer ahh, never!!. Another reason i didn't think that they had performed the upgrade.

All I can say is unless I have a warranty issue that I need sorted out, the dealer will not be getting any further business from me. There are some specialist VW workshops on the Gold Coast which have great reviews so these guys will be getting a new client in the next few months.

[Andysuew]

Yeah, forums are a godsend for car owners - many dealers I'm sure see them as a curse though... the good ones should use it as a resource.

Just curious about your signature though - what do you mean by "full LED conversion?" Did you change your Xenons to LED or just the everything else? I've done the door courtesy lights, glovebox, boot lights & reverse lights. Haven't done indicators yet and I am in the process of doing fogs but I'm having huge trouble with removing the access caps. Plan b is to use ramps and remove the plate to get access from below.

Every lamp has been converted to LED except for the Xenon headlights. These work perfectly fine from a brightness point of view. With the fog lights, the covers came off fairly easily. It only took 10 mins to change over both sides. Good luck with your fog lights, hope you don't have to put too much effort in to change them out.

[Ozsko]

I need some hard evidence that TJA was activated in Skoda Superbs after they have been sold to present to VW, has anyone got anything on paper that could be used as that evidence. Forum chatter and gossip is like a red rag to a bull where dealers/manufacturers are concerned so a link to here is not evidence unfortunately.

[bego9]

Service dealer fixed this TJA as part of the recall but they still unable to fix 'acoustic confirmation' that I requested.
This updated TJA is much better than before but I feel the warning reminder comes up faster than before.
Also I experience a couple of times that it doesn't break as earlier as before when there is a car in front. It breaked too close to the car in front even though I set the distance the lowest two.

[Vexed]

I finally got the recall flash done for the Adaptive Lane Guidance and it works perfectly. With ACC engaged, the Lane Assist stays green right down to nearly 5kph. The active steer is more fluid than before and keeps the car in the centre of the lane compared to bouncing of the line markings.

The dealer didn't switch the system on via the infotainment unit so at first I didn't think they had done the upgrade. Mind you they didn't even mention anything about controlling via the infotainment system, so I suspect they really didn't understand what they were doing.

It was only the information supplied via the this & Briskoda forums that I knew it had to be selected to operate.

Hi Andy,

Did the below recall campaigns fix TJA in your car?
CAMPAIGN 91Q4 - Signal Amplifier
CAMPAIGN 96F4 - Update Camera Control Unit

I went to the dealer today and asked about TJA, they didn't seem to know what's wrong with TJA, but they mentioned the above campaigns. Is there anything else I need to tell them about?

Thanks.

[Andysuew]

Hi Andy,

Did the below recall campaigns fix TJA in your car?
CAMPAIGN 91Q4 - Signal Amplifier
CAMPAIGN 96F4 - Update Camera Control Unit

I went to the dealer today and asked about TJA, they didn't seem to know what's wrong with TJA, but they mentioned the above campaigns. Is there anything else I need to tell them about?

Thanks.

Nope, those two will do it. Just remember to switch it on in the infotainment system. Don't trust that the dealer has done it for you.

[Vexed]

Nope, those two will do it. Just remember to switch it on in the infotainment system. Don't trust that the dealer has done it for you.Thanks mate :)
Booked it in for next week... They will check the sunroof problem as well... Will see if they can figure it out or not.

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[Vexed]

Thanks mate :)
Booked it in for next week... They will check the sunroof problem as well... Will see if they can figure it out or not.

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I can confirm the below recall campaigns have fixed TJA :D
CAMPAIGN 91Q4 - Signal Amplifier
CAMPAIGN 96F4 - Update Camera Control Unit

[IMSancho]

Has anyone had 96F4 done on an MY16? I asked about it for mine and the local dealer will only say it's not listed as needed. I asked if they could look it up and tell me what it is applicable to and they didn't seem to know how. Mine shows as:

Part 3V0035045A
Hardware H42
Software 0318

[Vexed]

Has anyone had 96F4 done on an MY16? I asked about it for mine and the local dealer will only say it's not listed as needed. I asked if they could look it up and tell me what it is applicable to and they didn't seem to know how. Mine shows as:

Part 3V0035045A
Hardware H42
Software 0318What does Skoda recall website say when you enter your VIN? Any recalls at all?
Does TJA work on your MY16 Superb? I have seen Superbs with TJA working without the recall update... Not sure if the update applies for all Superb MK3s.

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[IMSancho]

Nothing showing on the recall site, and I do get the option for adaptive lane guidance in the setup menu. TJA works ok​ but it does lose the lane lock quite a bit, I guess that's as good as it's going to get.

[amjob]

Hi
Does anyone know about Traffic Jam Assistance feature in 2017 Superb Sportline with Tech pack? I can't find an Adaptive Lane Guidance in drivers assist to turn it on at to switch it on in the infotainment system. Spoke to dealership and Skoda but they are no help. On various forums, it was mentioned that it needs to turn on at the dealership by some sort of recall.
Thank you

[dArK5HaD0w]

your MY17 Superb should already have TJA enabled from factory. nothing to code.

for TJA to work, you need to:-
1. Make sure Adaptive Lane Guidance (ALG) is turned on under Driver Assist menu in the infotainment. see pic below.
2. Turn on Active Cruise Control (ACC). minimum set cruise speed is 30km/h.

you'll know its working when the Lane Guidance symbol remains green (instead of amber) when travelling below 65 km/h.

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[amjob]

your MY17 Superb should already have TJA enabled from factory. nothing to code.

for TJA to work, you need to:-
1. Make sure Adaptive Lane Guidance (ALG) is turned on under Driver Assist menu in the infotainment. see pic below.
2. Turn on Active Cruise Control (ACC). minimum set cruise speed is 30km/h.

you'll know its working when the Lane Guidance symbol remains green (instead of amber) when travelling below 65 km/h.

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It doesn’t have the Adaptive Lane Guidance in Drivers Assist Menu. I’ve tried the Dealer over the phone and he said it doesn’t come with TJA, very strange.

[dArK5HaD0w]

From pg.19 of the MY17 brochure (published March 2017)........
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[dArK5HaD0w]

It doesn’t have the Adaptive Lane Guidance in Drivers Assist Menu. I’ve tried the Dealer over the phone and he said it doesn’t come with TJA, very strange.

Something has been coded incorrectly for your car.
Did u buy it brand new?

Looks like u'll need to recode it back via VCDS.

[Vexed]

It doesn’t have the Adaptive Lane Guidance in Drivers Assist Menu. I’ve tried the Dealer over the phone and he said it doesn’t come with TJA, very strange.My MY17 needed a software update at the dealership as part of a recall for TJA to work.

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[amjob]

Something has been coded incorrectly for your car.
Did u buy it brand new?

Looks like u'll need to recode it back via VCDS.

I recently bought it as used/demo one of those executive driven cars from VW dealership with about 6000 KMs.

I have ordered OBDeleven, do you this it can be useful?

[amjob]

My MY17 needed a software update at the dealership as part of a recall for TJA to work.

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Do you have idea about the recall campaign number ? Dealer is suggesting there no recalls.

[dArK5HaD0w]

My MY17 needed a software update at the dealership as part of a recall for TJA to work.


mine is MY17 - no software recall/coding/update was required.
maybe the earlier MY17s had issues?

mine was built March 2017. delivered June 2017.


i have however recently heard that the Arteon's are getting software updates/fixes for the Adaptive Lane Guidance. don't know if this if for all with ALG, or just specific to the Arteon.

Recall 9635
- Carried out software update on lane assist





I have ordered OBDeleven, do you this it can be useful?

i don't know if u can enable TJA via OBDEleven, nor do i have the instructions for that.
be careful though if u enable it via the "app" version, as it does "other hidden" things, and may end up stuffing other things up. making the undo of it, or reversing it, messy.

[amjob]

I only have as below under the Driver assist menu in the infotainment, No Adaptive Lane Guidance.
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[Ozsko]

mine is MY17 - no software recall/coding/update was required.
maybe the earlier MY17s had issues?

mine was built March 2017. delivered June 2017.


i have however recently heard that the Arteon's are getting software updates/fixes for the Adaptive Lane Guidance. don't know if this if for all with ALG, or just specific to the Arteon.

Recall 9635
- Carried out software update on lane assist





i don't know if u can enable TJA via OBDEleven, nor do i have the instructions for that.
be careful though if u enable it via the "app" version, as it does "other hidden" things, and may end up stuffing other things up. making the undo of it, or reversing it, messy.

If the Tiguan experience is any guide the answer is no but Kamold did my Tiguan using other methods. Perhaps ask a dealer or failing that contact Kamold via PM.