Tow Bar for the Tiguan

[marcuskmt]

The factory installed Tow Bar is $2000!

Those of you that have a tow bar, did you get the factory one or a generic one?

Hayman Reese do a good tow bar, but I cant see it for this 2017 Tiguan.

Hayman Reese - Online Catalogue - hayman reese (http://www.haymanreese.com.au/online-catalogue)​

[REGS12]

ARB in Geelong fitted a Hayman Reece to my 2013 Tiguan for $1044. Good looking unit and have had no issues with it.

Don't know the situation with 2017 Tiguan, but at the time they were a lot cheaper than VW's.

[Pussbak]

Dor factory unit Double check what trailer socket is included as the factory harness in the past has been a 13 pin Euro which means an adaptor will be further required to go to Aus standard 7 pin flat/round

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[Hole46]

Check out the Westfalia, completely out of sight with gooseneck removed.


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[IsDon]

Check out the Westfalia, completely out of sight with gooseneck removed.


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+1

The Westfalia is a far better bar for a cheaper price. They are the OEM bar for VAG vehicles in Europe, so if you bought a Tig locally in Germany and asked for a factory tow bar, that's what you would get.

They're a work of engineering art, designed for the vehicle from the get go and are completely invisible once you remove the gooseneck. I understand some Tigs already have the cutout under the bumper from the factory ready for this bar. As opposed to some square cross section bar that will require half you bumper to be cut away and will always be a visible scar on the back of you car.

Go with the bar the car is designed for, not some half thought out box girder that gives the dealer the largest margin.

[marcuskmt]

I like the sound of the Westfalia.

Is this the one?

TIGUAN | Towbars Australia (http://www.towbarsaustralia.com.au/towbar-kits/tiguan-2)

I'm a bit worried about DIY on a new car!!!

Is it really easy for a non handyman?

IS there anyone that you can recommend in Adelaide that will supply and install it?

[IsDon]

I like the sound of the Westfalia.

Is this the one?

TIGUAN | Towbars Australia (http://www.towbarsaustralia.com.au/towbar-kits/tiguan-2)

I'm a bit worried about DIY on a new car!!!

Is it really easy for a non handyman?

IS there anyone that you can recommend in Adelaide that will supply and install it?

It certainly looks like it, but as the note says the actual bar may differ from the one shown in the photo.

I installed mine, and it wasn't difficult to actually attach the bar. The problem came when I tried to code all of the modules. Major PITA. Managed to achieve it with a lot of help from Westfalia in Germany and Australia and the people at Ross-Tech who make the VCDS cable. For that reason alone it's probably worth getting someone to fit and code it for you.

Give Westfalia head office in Melbourne a call and ask them who their reps are in Adelaide (03) 9466 7941.

[NZ_GolfR]

Interesting I just stumbled across this R Line for sale over here in NZ that apparently has the factory fitted swivel tow bar fitted:

Volkswagen Tiguan 4WD TSI R Line 2017 | Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/volkswagen/auction-1264326232.htm)

When I originally enquired about having this on my car when I ordered I was told it wasn't available here in NZ, they fit an aftermarket one that comes through the bumper like you get over there. It is also mentioned in the listing that it was a $1500 option while the aftermarket one my dealer quoted me was going to be $2000.


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[IsDon]

Interesting I just stumbled across this R Line for sale over here in NZ that apparently has the factory fitted swivel tow bar fitted:

Volkswagen Tiguan 4WD TSI R Line 2017 | Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/volkswagen/auction-1264326232.htm)

When I originally enquired about having this on my car when I ordered I was told it wasn't available here in NZ, they fit an aftermarket one that comes through the bumper like you get over there. It is also mentioned in the listing that it was a $1500 option while the aftermarket one my dealer quoted me was going to be $2000.


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Westfalia make the swivel tow bar for factory fitment in Europe. Westfalia NZ may fit them locally for you. Our nanny state Australian Standards Association won't allow them to be fitted legally in Australia. NZ is probably a bit more realistic. If it's legal in Europe why shouldn't be legal everywhere.

Call your local Westfalia rep see if they can fit it for you locally. Don't fit a local VW factory bar. They're crap by comparison.

[TungstenR]

Interesting I just stumbled across this R Line for sale over here in NZ that apparently has the factory fitted swivel tow bar fitted:

Volkswagen Tiguan 4WD TSI R Line 2017 | Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/volkswagen/auction-1264326232.htm)

When I originally enquired about having this on my car when I ordered I was told it wasn't available here in NZ, they fit an aftermarket one that comes through the bumper like you get over there. It is also mentioned in the listing that it was a $1500 option while the aftermarket one my dealer quoted me was going to be $2000.


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Argh, they told me it can't be had in NZ because of a different ball size... (no pun intended)

I sent Westfalia New Zealand an email yesterday morning, they haven't responded (yet).

[Regdop]

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Just Thought Id way in on this discussion.... I got an OEM towbar fitted prior to delivery, it took a couple of days for the techs to get the coding right, but we got there in the end. I have included closeups so you can see how well it was fitted.... yes thet did cut a small section out, but from the photos I think you'll agree it looks pretty good. The last shot is looking up from the ground. Unfortunately I cant tell you what I paid for it as I bought it as part of my lease. I didnt get an itemised quote but went with a total of $56.5K which was ordered back in September.... Ive had it since Tuesday this week. I will write up some of my initial thoughts in the "....my experience so far" thread.
Cheers
Gary

[ewok666]

I've been told that the swivel tow bar was actually not legal in Australia. Not sure whether this is the VW specific one or swivel tow bars in general. Anyone got any information on this?

[ewok666]

Unfortunately I cant tell you what I paid for it as I bought it as part of my lease. I didnt get an itemised quote but went with a total of $56.5K which was ordered back in September...

Gary

Is that a price that includes the Sunroof, DAP and R-Line?

[Regdop]

Is that a price that includes the Sunroof, DAP and R-Line?

no sunroof!!

[marcuskmt]

I've been told that the swivel tow bar was actually not legal in Australia. Not sure whether this is the VW specific one or swivel tow bars in general. Anyone got any information on this?

Anyone know the answer to this?

[Gladbach]

Anyone know the answer to this?

I heard the same thing but I haven't read anything officially confirming that it's the case. My understanding is that it doesn't meet Australian Standards. Australian standards are pretty strict, a lot more conservative to Europe.

[TungstenR]

The ball size is different, as I was told by the dealer.

[IsDon]

The ball size is different, as I was told by the dealer.

No, ball size is the same.

[TungstenR]

Then it all doesn't make sense, as the new Tiguan is completely prepared for easy fitting it.

[TungstenR]

I've asked a local tow bar manufacturer, and they said they can make me one that is completely out of sight instead of the ugly square sticking out that Volkswagen Australia and New Zealand are offering.

I've asked Westfalia, but they are too lazy to respond, even after their CEO told me he'd make sure I'd get a response...

[IsDon]

I heard the same thing but I haven't read anything officially confirming that it's the case. My understanding is that it doesn't meet Australian Standards. Australian standards are pretty strict, a lot more conservative to Europe.

Half correct.

First part correct. The reason we aren't allowed to fit the retractable towbar is because the Australian Standards Association say we can't.

Second part incorrect. Australian standards aren't necessarily strict, they're just different. The reason for them being different is to keep this worthless bureaucratic organisation alive. Contrary to popular belief, this is not a government body. It is a private company. It gets oxygen through bureaucratic delay.

Purporting to be the overseer of Standards, it's actually just a self perpetuating impediment to common sense that we are all paying for through increased red tape. By dictating a different standard than the rest of the planet we pay more for everything we buy, and are refused access to better designed and more practical solutions, not because they're unsafe, but because the ASA hasn't gotten around to testing it yet. To just sign off on something engineered in Germany would show the country that they are actually irrelevant.

This tow bar is just one example. Isofix car seats are another glaring example. The rest of the world has had Isofix car seats available to them since 1997. They are a vastly better car seat. ISO stands for International Standards Organisation (loosely). You would think anything that has been deemed to comply with an international standard would be ok here. Not so.

Up until very recently, last couple of years, it has been illegal to fit an Isofix car seat. If you did, and a copper saw it, you could be fined. Worse still, if your child was injured in an Isofix car seat, they would not be third party insured. Instead we were forced to feed seat belts through the back of the ASA approved seat, sometimes propping them up on towels to cater for the design of the seat itself. It was so convoluted that it was common knowledge a majority of these seats were fitted incorrectly. How many children's lives have been lost through this is undetermined.

Now you would think the ASA would just test Isofix seats and then give them the tick, not so, that would be too easy and open them up to criticism as to why it had taken them so long to get off their bloated arses and approve a better seat. Instead they mandated that Isofix seats were approved, as long as they also had a top tether. Small problem, no other country had adopted this standard and there were actually no seats sold on the planet that met this standard. The seat manufacturers had to tool up to produce these seats specifically designed to meet the Australian Standard. You can buy them now, finally, but you pay a huge premium for them. As a result most parents fit inferior seats because they can't afford to pay for these niche market seats. It's a travesty.

[Hole46]

I've asked a local tow bar manufacturer, and they said they can make me one that is completely out of sight instead of the ugly square sticking out that Volkswagen Australia and New Zealand are offering.

I've asked Westfalia, but they are too lazy to respond, even after their CEO told me he'd make sure I'd get a response...

I had a Westfalia bar fitted to my R-line, just over $1500 fitted, looks much better than the one VW fitted to my neighbour's Comfortline.


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[Gladbach]

Could you post a photo?

[Hole46]

Could you post a photo?

Can't take a photo for a couple of days, but there is a large collection of photos on European Car Upgrades Facebook site.


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[SNOBUM]

Definitely recommend the Westfalia - best towbar out there.

Just wanting to know if we get the Trailer Park Assist feature in NZ/OZ if the factory trailer electrics module is installed?? My R-Line knows when a trailer is plugged in, but says the park assist is unavailable - was hoping that the dealer has just not coded fully, but suspect this feature only available in UK/Euro.

[IsDon]

Definitely recommend the Westfalia - best towbar out there.

Just wanting to know if we get the Trailer Park Assist feature in NZ/OZ if the factory trailer electrics module is installed?? My R-Line knows when a trailer is plugged in, but says the park assist is unavailable - was hoping that the dealer has just not coded fully, but suspect this feature only available in UK/Euro.

My guess is that the trailer module is coded correctly if the dealer has fitted the bar. That said, if you have the driver assistance pack then you have park assist. If you have park assist then the car should have all the necessary hardware for Trailer Park Assist to work. VCDS should be able to enable this. Be interested to know if our Kiwi cousins across the ditch have this options available to them. If so it should be able to be coded.

[marcuskmt]

My guess is that the trailer module is coded correctly if the dealer has fitted the bar.


That is a good point.

How do you know if a tow bar is installed correctly?

None of the tow bar installers near me have installed a 2017 Westfalia tow bar yet.

[IsDon]

If the towing module is installed without it being coded you will know.

For a start the lights won't work. The car will also recognise a new module is fitted but not coded which will show up as a fault message on the dash. Depending on the model, you will probably have other warning messages as well. Suspension faults, ABS faults etc.

The factory coding will probably not enable Trailer Park Assist as I don't think this is a factory option in Australia. That's not to say that it can't be activated later with VCDS. It's just a matter of comparing the coding to the same vehicle from an overseas market that has Trailer Park Assist and changing the coding to match. This usually enables the functionality.

I fitted the Westfalia bar to my C7 A6 Allroad when I first bought the car I was faced with the same problems. Like the Tiguan now, it was also a new model that nobody had seen the coding for. It took quite a few weeks of fiddling about to work out what needed to be coded. Luckily, I received lots of help from Westfalia both here and in Germany, and Ross-Tech. In the end I needed to code about a dozen modules. I suspect the tow bar installers here are faced with the same problems. They use a coding tool which will update the coding in your car when they fit the towbar. Like everyone though, they are in the dark until the model has been out for a while.

I suspect VW, like Audi, aren't in a hurry to make the codes available to anyone. They would rather sell you an inferior bar at an inflated price.


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[SNOBUM]

Spot on IsDon - I rang three other VW service agents after having the OEM electrics fitted, and they all said they just use a coding tool, so whatever is on there is what you get I guess - was hoping they had a coding Guru that could enable it (not that I can't back a trailer!).
If anyone has the code, please post it.

[IsDon]

Yes mate that's correct,

If VW are anything like Audi, they use an online system, they don't physically change each module. They just plug the car in, tell the computer in Germany that they've just fitted a tow bar, it then updates the configuration of your specific vehicle, based on its VIN, and downloads the required changes to your car. It's not done by changing individual module coding like you would do with VCDS.

Which brings me to another point. If you code the car yourself, or have a towbar installer code it for you, this obviously doesn't update the master in Germany. If you then have a firmware update done by a dealer, there is a possibility they will overwrite your coding and put it back to what VW thinks it should be. Always keep a list of the coding you have done in case this happens.


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[marcuskmt]

Yes mate that's correct,

Always keep a list of the coding you have done in case this happens.


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How do you do this?

[IsDon]

How do you do this?

There's more than one way to skin that cat.

A simple way is to just take a screen shot just before you hit the "Do it" button. On that screen you'll have the original binary string before the code is changed, and the new string that you've changed it to. If the coding doesn't work as you expect, it is then a simple matter of returning it to what it was before you messed with it. If it does work then you have a record of what you changed it to, and a record of what the original coding was.

There are other ways of scanning the whole vehicle before and after. Just keep detailed notes is all I'm saying.

[hamisticle]

I had a Westfalia bar fitted to my R-line, just over $1500 fitted, looks much better than the one VW fitted to my neighbour's Comfortline.


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Hi mate, my 162tsi with all the fruit gets here Aug and I'm looking for a tow bar for my r line. Do you have any pics? I want to go aftermarket, maybe westfalia if they are rated the same as other traditional clunky units. Pulling a trailer and bikes on the back. Coding is my biggest concerns needing to go back to the dealer to code it after I didn't buy there overpriced unit


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[SNOBUM]

Check these guys out - they have fitted a Westfalia to an R-Line. Quite a few pics. Looks good.

https://australiatowbars.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-detachable-tow-bar-a40v-genuine-vw-2016-oem-0922800000.html

[Hole46]

Check these guys out - they have fitted a Westfalia to an R-Line. Quite a few pics. Looks good.

https://australiatowbars.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-detachable-tow-bar-a40v-genuine-vw-2016-oem-0922800000.html

Yes, that's mine, a lot more photos on the Euro Car Upgrades Facebook site.


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[colinmc400]

Yes, that's mine, a lot more photos on the Euro Car Upgrades Facebook site.


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Did you get offered the option of having a hitch option, as opposed to a fixed tow ball?

[Hole46]

Did you get offered the option of having a hitch option, as opposed to a fixed tow ball?

No. Only after I bought mine did I find out there is one with a removable ball shown on the instruction sheet as well.


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[colinmc400]

No. Only after I bought mine did I find out there is one with a removable ball shown on the instruction sheet as well.


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Righto, thanks for the tip.

[colinmc400]

No. Only after I bought mine did I find out there is one with a removable ball shown on the instruction sheet as well.


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I just spoke to EV Towbars people about this and they claim to not know about the hitch option. Is there any way you could scan the instruction sheet and put it on here, so I can show them please?

[SNOBUM]

http://www.towbarfactory.co.nz/site/westfalia-automotive/images//thumb/A40T_A%28sq%29.jpg

Is this what you guys are talking about??
It's called an A40T over here in NZ

[Hole46]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/04/A40T_A28sq29-1.jpg

Is this what you guys are talking about??
It's called an A40T over here in NZ

That certainly looks like it.


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[veew]

No. Only after I bought mine did I find out there is one with a removable ball shown on the instruction sheet as well.
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How much was the removable hitch?

[veew]

Westfalia website states their towbars are ADR certified, correlates with what AustraliaTowBars.com.au state on their site for the Tiguan towbar. My dealer stated they weren't but I'll have to send them the link:
About us - EVTowbars (http://evt-automotive.com.au/content/4-about-us)
New VW Tiguan MY2016 Towbar (http://www.ozvolks.com/forums/showthread.php/3019-New-VW-Tiguan-MY2016-Towbar)

[IsDon]

Westfalia bars ARE ADR compliant. They have been since they started in Australia back in 2014. They wouldn't be able to sell them in Australia if they weren't.

Sounds like your dealer is telling you BS to sell you his inferior tow bar at vastly inflated prices. Don't fall for it.


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[jrgti]

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't a max vertical load of 120KG on the towball equate to a max braked towing load of 1.2 tons allowed in Aus? Also a weight distribution hitch is not allowed to be used on a Tiguan.
Product-EVTowbars (http://evt-automotive.com.au/tow-bars-towbar-kits/433-a40v-volkswagen-tiguan-2016-.html)

[Beowulf]

Some additional towbar images for veew

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[veew]

Cheers Beowolf, much appreciated!

[marcuskmt]

I had my Westfalia Tow Bar installed today. The installer told me that Westfalia closed shop in Australia. This is a shame because this tow bar is awesome. You dont even know there is a tow bar there if you remove the goose neck.

Just a couple of questions for those that have the Westfalia Tow Bar:

1. With the goose neck out, I cant seem to remove the key. Is that a safety thing so you dont lose the key or can it come out?
2. Do you get error messages if you drive the car with the goose neck in but no trailer attached?
3. I need a 7 to 13 pin adapter for my bike carrier - where do I get them from? Is the one linked from ebay below the correct one? Is it worth getting the original Westfalia one for 5x the price at $46.80 (last link)?

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[veew]

I had my Westfalia Tow Bar installed today. The installer told me that Westfalia closed shop in Australia. This is a shame because this tow bar is awesome. You dont even know there is a tow bar there if you remove the goose neck.

Just a couple of questions for those that have the Westfalia Tow Bar:

1. With the goose neck out, I cant seem to remove the key. Is that a safety thing so you dont lose the key or can it come out?
2. Do you get error messages if you drive the car with the goose neck in but no trailer attached?
3. I need a 7 to 13 pin adapter for my bike carrier - where do I get them from? Is the one linked from ebay below the correct one? Is it worth getting the original Westfalia one for 5x the price at $46.80 (last link)?

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Hey mate, would be keen to check it out sometime. My car is about 6 weeks away so sussing out towbars now.

[dmn]

I had my Westfalia Tow Bar installed today. The installer told me that Westfalia closed shop in Australia. This is a shame because this tow bar is awesome. You dont even know there is a tow bar there if you remove the goose neck.



Explains why my emails were never returned...what are the options for a westfalia towbar...I am in Canberra and prefer not to use the modified Oz version that is only available from our VW dealers - don't want to cut out the rear bumper on my R-Line!

[marcuskmt]

Explains why my emails were never returned...what are the options for a westfalia towbar...I am in Canberra and prefer not to use the modified Oz version that is only available from our VW dealers - don't want to cut out the rear bumper on my R-Line!

1. From what I've seen the OEM VW Australian Tow Bar is your next best choice.
2. However, I may have a contact who has one Westfalia R-Line Tow Bar left. I'll find out for you. Message me if you're serious but these tow bars are expensive - almost $2000.

[veew]

Just saw a MY18 Tiguan 162TSI R-line today with a towbar.
The rear bar had not been cut into, well from what I could see.
So I optioned the VW tow bar today.
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[Coxie]

Just saw a MY18 Tiguan 162TSI R-line today with a towbar.
The rear bar had not been cut into, well from what I could see.
So I optioned the VW tow bar today.
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I've got the OEM Towbar on my MY17 and they haven't cut anything to fit it, it's identical to your images.

[dmn]

I've got the OEM Towbar on my MY17 and they haven't cut anything to fit it, it's identical to your images.
Coxie - where did you source your towbar from - VW?

[Coxie]

Coxie - where did you source your towbar from - VW?

Yeah i had it fitted by the dealer before i picked the car up

[dmn]

Yeah i had it fitted by the dealer before i picked the car up

thanks...maybe there has been a revision as I certainly do not want to cut my rear bumper on my R-Line :eek:

[veew]

The model number hasn't changed, I think it depends on who is fitting it and their experience.

[dmn]

The model number hasn't changed, I think it depends on who is fitting it and their experience.
interesting...apart from the wiring and coding how difficult is the fitment of the actual towbar on the R-Line?

[veew]

interesting...apart from the wiring and coding how difficult is the fitment of the actual towbar on the R-Line?
This should give you an idea of the difficulty:

Euro Car Upgrades - Photos | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pg/EuroCarUpgrades/photos/?tab=album&album_id=799437406874292)

[dmn]

This should give you an idea of the difficulty:

Euro Car Upgrades - Photos | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pg/EuroCarUpgrades/photos/?tab=album&album_id=799437406874292)

many thanks veew :)

[veew]

Just discovered this tweak to activate trailer assist: stemei.de .Fahrzeugcodierungen .Codierungsservice .Webdesign - Stefan Meier - Trailer Assistent freischalten - Fahrzeug Codierungen, Webdesign (https://www.stemei.de/pages/coding/vw-tiguan-ii-ad/trailer-assistent-freischalten.php)

Addit: Actually, just realised there are no instructions available to activate it.

For those who have fitted a genuine VW towbar, does your car have the trailer assist function available?

[SNOBUM]

Hi veew

I had genuine electrics fitted by dealer and installed a Westfalia towbar myself. Unfortunately in NZ the genuine electrics do not give you Trailer Assist, only adjusts ABS to help overcome trailer sway, plus disables blind spot monitoring. I spoke to several dealers, as I initially thought they had not fully programmed all the options, but they all said they just download a set routine into the CPU provided by VW - no individual parameter changes using VCDS.

[veew]

Just came across this: Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-post1242073.html#post1242073)

May be one of the few steps towards activating Trailer Assist.
Let me know how you guys go.

[SNOBUM]

Hi veew

Just came across these instructions - I have not tried them yet.

Activate Trailer Assist - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/trailer-assist/)

[veew]

Hi veew
Just came across these instructions - I have not tried them yet.
Activate Trailer Assist - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/trailer-assist/)

Cheers mate, let me know how you go

[Jap]

You need a highline reverse camera for trailer assist too (the one where the lines move when you turn the steering wheel in reverse)

[SNOBUM]

Cheers mate, let me know how you go

See my reply to another member:

Hi Jap

Please could you post your codings & adaptation channels so I can compare. I followed these instructions on my MY17 Tiguan R-Line:

Activate Trailer Assist - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/trailer-assist/)

I had the genuine trailer electrics installed by dealer, so car knows when trailer plugged in, but Trailer Assist never worked. After altering the above coding & adaptations, I now get a message that Trailer Assist is available and to press the Park Assist button when the car is in reverse - once I do that, a picture flashes up showing how to control via the side mirror selector/adjuster, but then an error message comes up to say take control of the steering wheel as Trailer Assist is not available due to the reversing camera being obscured.
I have no idea why this error occurs, as the camera is clean, I have removed the jockey wheel & re-routed the trailer plug out of view in-case it is getting confused.

I did have a problem with the final adaptation change, as Klemme 15 does not appear in the drop down list??

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

[veew]

Cheers for the above. Will post up when I get around to trying it out.

Came across this: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkeiv7hZy_Y)

[colinmc400]

So what's the latest on tow hitches then? VW OEM or someone else? Are Westfalia still out of the picture? Anyone had one fitted to an R-Line in Perth?

[Ground_Level]

Genuine Volkswagen tow bar is $1100.00 that's including wiring harass. perk of knowing Pre Delivery mechanic is 300 fitted :)

[colinmc400]

Genuine Volkswagen tow bar is $1100.00 that's including wiring harass. perk of knowing Pre Delivery mechanic is 300 fitted :)

Nice, send him to Perth would you, as I have been quoted $2100 by my supplying dealer.

[sVWatt]

Nice, send him to Perth would you, as I have been quoted $2100 by my supplying dealer.

I got quoted $1500 without electric brake, and $2100 with

[colinmc400]

I got quoted $1500 without electric brake, and $2100 with

Umm for the amount of towing I would do. no sure I am fussed about electric braking.

[Ground_Level]

You need to be carefull when getting aftermarket parts fitted as well as it wont fall under warranty if something lets go aka suspension components see be carefull when dealing with these other companys

[IsDon]

You need to be carefull when getting aftermarket parts fitted as well as it wont fall under warranty if something lets go aka suspension components see be carefull when dealing with these other companys

Yeah, I call bull excrement on that one.

Not saying a dealership might try it on, but they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Dealerships prey on paranoia. Don't fall for it.

[Ground_Level]

Not saying it will happen but if you want to protect your new car warranty just be thoughtful on your purchases as this goes for anything aftermarket. Aka turbos intercooler stage tunes. Not that alot of these things you will be fitting to a tiguan anyways but yes some items can void it

[IsDon]

Not saying it will happen but if you want to protect your new car warranty just be thoughtful on your purchases as this goes for anything aftermarket. Aka turbos intercooler stage tunes. Not that alot of these things you will be fitting to a tiguan anyways but yes some items can void it

But an aftermarket tow bar certainly won’t.

I remember one guy in here arguing that if you didn’t use genuine VW windscreen washer additive you’d void your warranty.

One born every minute.

Dealerships must live these gullible souls.

[hamisticle]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone looked into the Westfalia detachable towbars from www.australiantowbars.com.au (Euro Car Upgrades) or even the Thule / Brink detachable or retractable version from European Towbars | Slim | Stylish | OEM Quality (http://www.etowbars.com)

I am keen not to have a big ugly Haymen Reece version or overpriced VW fitted unit. I also cant see where they attach the trailer chains on these towbars from europe? In relation to the coding, can all workshops do this, and will this coding stay with the car once VW updates the software during a service? Ive got an R Line on order and really want the retractable Brink model but can't seem to find anyone that has had it installed with pictures. Can anyone tell me what is the correct plug pin required to tow a standard 6x4 trailer here in WA? 7 pin / 13 pin? Anyone that has great info, PM to swap numbers for a chat!

[obmal]

A Melbourne outlet Westfalia | Melbourne Towbars (http://melbournetowbars.com.au/westfalia)

[marcuskmt]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone looked into the Westfalia detachable towbars from www.australiantowbars.com.au (http://www.australiantowbars.com.au) (Euro Car Upgrades) or even the Thule / Brink detachable or retractable version from European Towbars | Slim | Stylish | OEM Quality (http://www.etowbars.com)



Mate, I definitely recommend the Westfalia. They dont even have to cut any piece of the car to install it. When you take the gooseneck out, you cant see any evidence of a tow bar.

However, I understand that Westfalia Australia went down a few months ago and it is hard to find one. I know of one guy that has one for the R-Line, but other than that, there are no more left. If you want, I'll forward you his details. He coded it correct for me too.

Now, not everyone knows how to code the car. Make sure you use someone that does, otherwise you'll get error messages on your dash.

If you did get this Westfalia, you need an adapter which are about $50 for the genuine Westfalia one. The Westfalia has a European plug, so anything Aussie needs this adapter.

Trailer Plug Adapter 13 Pin round to 7 Pin round Tow Bar Electrics Westfalia | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Trailer-Plug-Adapter-13-Pin-round-to-7-Pin-round-Tow-Bar-Electrics-Westfalia/272874780364?epid=1025153530&hash=item3f889ab6cc:g:4KQAAOSw5cNYmVis)

[IsDon]

Another option is to import a Westfalia yourself from PF Jones in the U.K. Then install it yourself. I did this with my Audi A6 Allroad. Audi wanted $4K, I imported a vastly superior bar than the Audi Australia option for $1000 which included the freight.

Only issues to consider. Programming will be an issue. It can be done with VCDS (as I did) but with a new model, like the Tiguan there will be a lot of work to be done to determine what the coding will be.

An imported bar won’t be Australian standards compliant. The difference is the Australian standards approved Westfalia have two safety chain connectors, where the rest of the world has one. Of course Australian bureaucrats know more about engineering tow bars than the rest of the planet.

[sVWatt]

Australian ADR’s are a left over from restricted imports and trade tariffs. We have an ADR for describing a sun visor and vanity mirror, but none for specifying fuel efficiency. We have ones which define the step down ratio of cogs and cables inside mechanical speedometers but none for digital or CANBUS systems.
The bulk of ADR is now aligned to UN standards, and should be absorbed fully and residual rules like ADR 47 should be phased out ASAP. Give the burocrats something proper to do ��

[ewok666]

Just found out that our Tiguan will finally be available next week. I ordered it with the OEM tow bar. Don't mind the price as long as it's half decent tow bar and the extra features are working. However, now I've been told they'll need to cut the bumper.....not impressed with that.

Does anyone have a photo handy that shows the OEM bar installed on a 162 Highline (with the R pack in case that makes any difference). I'd really like to know what exactly this will look like before cutting into anything.

TIA

[spacemannz]

Just found out that our Tiguan will finally be available next week. I ordered it with the OEM tow bar. Don't mind the price as long as it's half decent tow bar and the extra features are working. However, now I've been told they'll need to cut the bumper.....not impressed with that.

Does anyone have a photo handy that shows the OEM bar installed on a 162 Highline (with the R pack in case that makes any difference). I'd really like to know what exactly this will look like before cutting into anything.

TIA

I think OEM is a loose term here in Oz. It is not the nifty swivel tow bar with an electric release button in the boot that is supplied by VW in Europe, compatible with the park pilot trailer reversing app.
More than likely built by a local manufacturer sourced by VWA to comply with local design rules... with as little research effort as possible... probably just the same one they fit to a Golf or Passat, with a small ‘hack’ to fit the Tig... And branded VW with associated 3000% markup. Their decision on which ‘OEM’ to offer will be based on function and economics, not form.
I recall seeing pics of 3rd party tow bars in this thread that do not cut the bumper. And probably a lot cheaper. It’s worth scrolling through the history here.

[IsDon]

The Westfalia ones have the trailer assist function incorporated. They are the real OEM bars. And they’re cheaper than the bodgy VW ones.

[ewok666]

The Westfalia ones have the trailer assist function incorporated. They are the real OEM bars. And they’re cheaper than the bodgy VW ones.

Thanks
Where can these be bought (or installed) in Australia?

[IsDon]

You were once able to get them from the importer in Melbourne. I think they’re available at most towbar retailers now. Just make sure you get the one with trailer assist function. It has a rotating bezel on the ball that turns with the trailer.

Have a look at the Westfalia website for how it works.

[ewok666]

You were once able to get them from the importer in Melbourne. I think they’re available at most towbar retailers now. Just make sure you get the one with trailer assist function. It has a rotating bezel on the ball that turns with the trailer.

Have a look at the Westfalia website for how it works.

Found it at australia tow bars.

Thanks!

[marcuskmt]

The Westfalia ones have the trailer assist function incorporated. They are the real OEM bars. And they’re cheaper than the bodgy VW ones.

+1

No panels need to be cut for the Westfalia.

They took a part off called the "Rio" and installed it.

I kept the Rio but have no idea why.

[veew]

Just an update for those who have the OEM towbar. I've twiddled with OBD11 and cannot access the rear view camera settings so haven't been able to get Trailer Assist Activated.

Anyone with trailer assist and OBD11 activated, is your trailer settings in VCDS/OBD11 set to Australia or ROW (rest of world)?

[Colonel]

I have recently taken delivery of my MY18 140TDI RLine with a factory fitted tow bar. Unfortunately Pin 2 of the 7 Pin connector is not connected or not coded through the ECU.

Can anybody tell me if it is possible to use Pin 2 (Reversing lights) via the ECU or has it simply not been wired from the ECU to the connector correctly.

[Wothrline]

Factory fitted!
Easy to hide but yet there if needed :)

[Dan_3MPS]

For anyone who has done their own install or with knowledge of the process on the Australian market Mk2/MQB Tiguan.

- Which side of the cargo area does the control module live?
- Is the trailer preparation wiring (from control box to CANbus) already in place from factory?
- Any additional plugs or splicing needed for communication with the CANbus after module plug in and checking '69' in the gateway installation list?
- What revision control module are people using? I have a new revision F module and 13 pin plug combination in the garage that I could use if it's compatible with the new Tiguan.

Thanks in advance for any info.


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[veew]

For those wondering about the in-built gooseneck towbar:

The review notes the Kodiaq has one but maximum down weight on the towball is 80kg.

2018 Skoda Kodiaq 140TDI review | CarAdvice (http://www.caradvice.com.au/620773/2018-skoda-kodiaq-140tdi-review/)

[veew]

Still had no luck with Trailer Assist. Anyone have it working in their cars?

[SNOBUM]

Still had no luck with Trailer Assist. Anyone have it working in their cars?

Hi veew
Still no luck for me either - continually get an error that the camera is obscured or the angle of draw-bar is too great - how about you??

[veew]

Same

YouTube (https://youtu.be/dcbwXuXkC5c)

[Dan_3MPS]

For anyone who has done their own install or with knowledge of the process on the Australian market Mk2/MQB Tiguan.

- Which side of the cargo area does the control module live?
- Is the trailer preparation wiring (from control box to CANbus) already in place from factory?
- Any additional plugs or splicing needed for communication with the CANbus after module plug in and checking '69' in the gateway installation list?
- What revision control module are people using? I have a new revision F module and 13 pin plug combination in the garage that I could use if it's compatible with the new Tiguan.

Thanks in advance for any info.


Sent from my SM-G955F using TapatalkBeen doing some more research...

Looks like revision G of the trailer module is the one that works with the 5NA / AD1 Tiguan.

Australian delivered cars should have the trailer preparation wiring already installed (front loom to CANbus) so that's one less thing to worry about.

I'm probably going to grab all the bits ex-Germany and self install. Local pricing is ludicrous.


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[nathang]

A massive word of warning for those that are considering purchasing Westfalia from Australia Tow Bars - the reliability of their installers out of Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne should be heavily questioned.

I live in Canberra and purchased a Westfalia for my Mk2 Tiguan R-Line with install in May of last year and have tried consistently to have it installed using their installers in Canberra. 3 Failed attempts I finally had the tow-bar installed in December but the installer didn't do the wiring as it was 'too hard'. Their resolution was for me to drive to Sydney or 'find someone myself' with no guarantee that I'd be refunded the full amount.

Long story short. I'd be very, very cautious about purchasing from them.

[ian]

Firstly i dont use my Tiguan for Towing as i have a diesel Navara ,But for safety i bought a CURT towbar from the USA its rated at 3.500lbs
Its main purpose is to protect me from rear ends and car parks ,
All Tiguans come with a fully installed beam across the rear of the vehicle, The one i bought come with two chain connections and can be installed by any one with any common sense ,Its only a matter of removing the cut out ,slip the attachment into the cut out area and install the high tensile bolts into the preinstalled beam which has the already holes and just tighten
This towbar is legal all through the USA and Canada and all through Europe but not here ?
And i installed my own trailer wiring only had a friend ok the install on his laptop
Can tow upto 6,000 lbs

Curt New Hitch Rear VW Volkswagen Tiguan 2009-2012,2014-2017 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Curt-New-Hitch-Rear-VW-Volkswagen-Tiguan-2009-2012-2014-2017/232667484871?epid=658433648&hash=item362c1012c7:g:4SUAAOSwRuJakub8&vxp=mtr)

[Dan_3MPS]

Firstly i dont use my Tiguan for Towing as i have a diesel Navara ,But for safety i bought a CURT towbar from the USA its rated at 3.500lbs
Its main purpose is to protect me from rear ends and car parks ,
All Tiguans come with a fully installed beam across the rear of the vehicle, The one i bought come with two chain connections and can be installed by any one with any common sense ,Its only a matter of removing the cut out ,slip the attachment into the cut out area and install the high tensile bolts into the preinstalled beam which has the already holes and just tighten
This towbar is legal all through the USA and Canada and all through Europe but not here ?
And i installed my own trailer wiring only had a friend ok the install on his laptop
Can tow upto 6,000 lbs

Curt New Hitch Rear VW Volkswagen Tiguan 2009-2012,2014-2017 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Curt-New-Hitch-Rear-VW-Volkswagen-Tiguan-2009-2012-2014-2017/232667484871?epid=658433648&hash=item362c1012c7:g:4SUAAOSwRuJakub8&vxp=mtr)Got any photos of it installed on your car Ian? Looks quite interesting. Have you used it to tow and/or put bike racks on?

I had a look for some information, found some on etrailer and Curt but for older model Tiguan and the new long Tiguan, not our Australian market short versions.

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[ian]

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MeObzmV0ug)

https://www.carid.com/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-trailer-hitches/

[Dan_3MPS]

Ah yeah, they're for the old model. Change to 2018 and you get the ones suitable for the Mk2 Tiguan.

[Dan_3MPS]

A massive word of warning for those that are considering purchasing Westfalia from Australia Tow Bars - the reliability of their installers out of Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne should be heavily questioned.

I live in Canberra and purchased a Westfalia for my Mk2 Tiguan R-Line with install in May of last year and have tried consistently to have it installed using their installers in Canberra. 3 Failed attempts I finally had the tow-bar installed in December but the installer didn't do the wiring as it was 'too hard'. Their resolution was for me to drive to Sydney or 'find someone myself' with no guarantee that I'd be refunded the full amount.

Long story short. I'd be very, very cautious about purchasing from them.

Doesn't sound good. Did they specifically say what part of the wiring was difficult? Makes me wonder if the CANBUS connection needs to be done, assuming the new Australian delivered Tiguans do have the trailer preparation option already. On the PQ35/36 platform (old Tiguan, Mk5/6 Golf etc) a connection was required to CAN high and low in the area just above the accelerator. If you didn't have the special Y piece that came with the VW branded trailer control module kit it was a real PITA...

Do you mind sharing how much they charged you? I've enquired a couple of times now online with no reply yet, may have to pick up the phone.

I'm still tossing up sourcing and installing my own or paying to have it all done. Had a quote from a local VW dealer, ~$1770 for the Best Bars towbar and VW electrics fitted, also a quote from another installer for a Hayman Reese bar (looks better than the Best Bars one, appears to have no bumper cuts) for $1000 without electrics or $1200 with bypass electrics (nope nope...)

Or, PF Jones from the UK is ~$865 delivered for Westfalia bar and electrics, which I then have to muck around installing myself.

[Lighty]

Mate, I definitely recommend the Westfalia. They dont even have to cut any piece of the car to install it. When you take the gooseneck out, you cant see any evidence of a tow bar.[/url]

Hi all - recent reader, first time poster. Took delivery on an R-Line in January but held off on the OEM towbar after reading the comments in this thread.

Have been considering the Westfalia bar to avoid cutting the rear bumper (as I saw in another thread). Local dealer here in Adelaide nearly led me astray saying that he had an R-Line in the service yard with a tow bar and no cutting... turned out to be a customer car which I’m pretty sure I’ve driven beside in Adelaide (where the towbar installation looked very clean).

If anyone has any Westfalia installer recommendations/details in Adelaide (and any recent experience/tips), I’d appreciate the info.

[Dan_3MPS]

I ended grabbing an Australian spec Westfalia bar, but with 7 pin flat bypass electrics for now. The price of the OEM electric kit is around $500 locally which scared me off. I haven't seen the full kit available ex-Germany, only the module. The plug from module to trailer plug is different to the spare older version kit I have from my older Golf, so I'll wait until I can source the newer kit from Europe or wait for the local dealer spares price to come down.

In hindsight, wish I had got the Hayman Reese bar as having the standard hitch means many accessories are available. The Westfalia bar limits things somewhat as it's the removable swan neck. Not entirely invisible either when removed like I was led to believe, see the pic. But, no cutting required.


http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/04/69447ac79b000f702ae2e3128480f141-1.jpg

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[marcuskmt]

If anyone has any Westfalia installer recommendations/details in Adelaide (and any recent experience/tips), I’d appreciate the info.

I am in Adelaide, but I got Jarred from Audio Fidelity in Victoria to install it for me (his installer was in Adelaide) and Jarred knows how to connect wire it and update VW Germany.

His fees are on the higher end, but I couldn't be happier. Installation is neat, integrates with unit, almost invisible and good honest service.

Contact | autofidelity (http://autofidelity.com.au/contact-us/)

[Jackson22]

Still looking for a decent towbar option for the MY18 Tiguan Adventure.

Quote for Hayman Reese, $1670!!!. Took them 3 weeks to reply and they tell me that the reverse camera may not like it when the slide in/out towing part and ball is on. But they won't know until after the fact. I can turn the camera sound off to address it or take the part off. Can anyone tell me if this is normal? I am hesitant to pay that much money if it means I have to take it out each time or disable the reversing camera sound?

Given the astronomical and stupid price, I am reluctantly even considering going with a VW one... Can anyone tell me their experience of towbar camera issues? with hayman reece or VW? It's a lot of money for the odd trailer trip and a bike rack..

[Dan_3MPS]

Still looking for a decent towbar option for the MY18 Tiguan Adventure.

Quote for Hayman Reese, $1670!!!

That's expensive. I was quoted $1210 fitted with bypass electrics for a Hayman Reese towbar.

VW dealer quoted $1769 for the OEM towbar fitted with proper electrics.

Both quotes from March in Brisbane.

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[doc_777]

I paid something like close to 1800 for the genuine bar on my Alltrack. Kinda figured it was a one-off expense, and if VW stuffed anything, then VW could fix it.

[Rescue23]

I've booked mine in to be done next week with a local firm which was recommended by a VW mechanic. Total cost will be $1089 with Hayman Reece tow bar. The fitter says it includes everything. Says he has done Mk2 Tiguans previously with no problems. I'll report back with photos after it's done on the 16th.

[Fred K]

I have been told that the Hayman Reese bar cannot be fitted to a TdI due to DPF
Anyone had the same problem and what is the alternative to the obvious one of being the dealer


Fred

[ian]

This is a Genuine VW but for the European market

Genuine OEM 2009-2017 VW Volkswagen Tiguan Complete Trailer Hitch Kit | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/p/Genuine-OEM-2009-2017-VW-Volkswagen-Tiguan-Complete-Trailer-Hitch-Kit/2211623370?iid=322947459687&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26 asc%3D44039%26meid%3D7e58d149ecea455980ff5c2ccfdf6 6f0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D2326 67484871%26itm%3D322947459687&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)

[NZ_GolfR]

This is a Genuine VW but for the European market

Genuine OEM 2009-2017 VW Volkswagen Tiguan Complete Trailer Hitch Kit | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/p/Genuine-OEM-2009-2017-VW-Volkswagen-Tiguan-Complete-Trailer-Hitch-Kit/2211623370?iid=322947459687&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26 asc%3D44039%26meid%3D7e58d149ecea455980ff5c2ccfdf6 6f0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D2326 67484871%26itm%3D322947459687&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)

If it is for 2009-2017 then it is the wrong model and won’t fit.


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[Jackson22]

Thanks

[Jackson22]

Thanks very much, appreciate it.

[Jackson22]

thanks, and it's all good with your reversing camera? I am tempted just to go Vw...

[wiredless]

I have the genuine OEM VW fitted by the dealer. It looks fine and works properly with all the sensors and electrics. It might be expensive but it is worth it.


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[ewok666]

I have the genuine OEM VW fitted by the dealer. It looks fine and works properly with all the sensors and electrics. It might be expensive but it is worth it.


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Do they cut the bumper for that one?

[wiredless]

Do they cut the bumper for that one?

No. They didn’t cut my Bumper. It fits in below it. Not sure if it makes any difference but I have a comfort line.


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[marcuskmt]

Do they cut the bumper for that one?

I might be wrong, but my understanding is that all tow bars apart from the Westfalia need some amount of cutting.

IMHO, the Westfalia is the one to get.

[wiredless]

I know that others have mentioned cutting, however I can’t see any visible signs - it just seems to fit. Anyway I’m happy with the result. Maybe some can correct me.


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[colinmc400]

Anybody have a Westfalia hitch fitted in Western Australia and how did you get on? I have been in contact with Australia Towbars and they say they have a fitter in Fremantle. Some of the stories going on about electrical and sensor woes has me slightly concerned, but I also cannot get a straight answer off John Hughes VW(supplying dealer) about fitting the OEM to an RLine model and cutting the bumper etc. They promised to send me pics of the first one they did and have received nothing so far.

[Rescue23]

I had a Hayman Reese towbar fitted for $1100. Looks neat enough and no cutting required (R-Line). Only downside is that that the electrics are not OEM so the rear parking sensors have to be manually muted on the touchscreen when reversing with the trailer hitch installed, and the auto tailgate opening is not disabled so it would be possible to accidentally open it with attachments (bike rack etc) hanging off the tow bar.

[Janus77]

For the claimed maximum tow weight, the tow ball down weight is very low on these cars. Worth keeping in mind for anyone hoping to tow a caravan..


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[TheTig]

Towing review some may find helpful - Volkswagen Tiguan 2018 Tow Test Review - motoring.com.au (https://www.motoring.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-2018-tow-test-review-113131/)

[wiredless]

Towing review some may find helpful - Volkswagen Tiguan 2018 Tow Test Review - motoring.com.au (https://www.motoring.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-2018-tow-test-review-113131/)

Thanks for the tow review. Found it useful even though I only use mine for a bike rack at the moment.


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[jcortez]

I've booked mine in to be done next week with a local firm which was recommended by a VW mechanic. Total cost will be $1089 with Hayman Reece tow bar. The fitter says it includes everything. Says he has done Mk2 Tiguans previously with no problems. I'll report back with photos after it's done on the 16th.

Do you know the company name? I'm looking to install a tow bar in the coming months.

[Rescue23]

It was just a local fitter (South Coast NSW). I'd expect the cost to be about the same wherever you have it done. Because it is not the OEM tow bar and wiring harness there are issues with the reversing sensors as mentioned in my post of 12/6. Other than that I have no complaints. It is possible to get the OEM wiring fitted retrospectively by the dealer but I'm happy enough with it as is.

[Lighty]

Hi all, a few months later and I’ve just had the Westfalia bar installed on our R-Line. Went with the advice provided my markusgmt. Unfortunately Auto Fidelity don’t have an installer in Adelaide anymore so we made a weekend of it to Melbourne, based on reviews from this forum and elsewhere.

Completely invisible when the hitch is out. I also didn’t expect the plug to rotate away out of sight when not needed (a pleasant surprise).

I’m only going to have a bicycle rack and small trailer on it, so I can see how some may want to consider something more robust. For our needs, this was the perfect solution.

A few quick images from last night.

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[Rescue23]

If you're going to buy a bike rack which fits onto the tow ball I suggest you check with the rack manufacturer as to whether the Westfalia ball is suitable. I bought a Thule rack and it came with a tow ball. It looked identical to the Hayman Reese tow ball which I already had fitted so I rang the distributor. He explained that the Thule tow ball was slightly smaller and allowed the Thule rack to lock on to the ball more securely.

[Hole46]

If you're going to buy a bike rack which fits onto the tow ball I suggest you check with the rack manufacturer as to whether the Westfalia ball is suitable. I bought a Thule rack and it came with a tow ball. It looked identical to the Hayman Reese tow ball which I already had fitted so I rang the distributor. He explained that the Thule tow ball was slightly smaller and allowed the Thule rack to lock on to the ball more securely.

We’ve got a Westfalia bar & Thule bike rack, no problems.


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[veew]

Good news (if a bit premature)! Apparently there is an internal memo from VW going around stating that the Mk2 Tiguan's tow bars will be rated for a downball weight of 200kg. This applies to new vehicles and will also apply retrospectively to ones already sold!

Apparently prospective buyers are being informed of this. Just thought you guys might like to know and also to keep an eye out for a formal memo to post up in the forums.

[Dan_3MPS]

Good news (if a bit premature)! Apparently there is an internal memo from VW going around stating that the Mk2 Tiguan's tow bars will be rated for a downball weight of 200kg. This applies to new vehicles and will also apply retrospectively to ones already sold!

Apparently prospective buyers are being informed of this. Just thought you guys might like to know and also to keep an eye out for a formal memo to post up in the forums.

Good news if true, will open up the options for caravans and camper trailers. Wonder how any retrospective application will apply to non-VW Australia towbars, like my Westfalia? I think the label for mine says 140kg already, but of course that's limited by the cars 100kg specification.

[Janus77]

Good news (if a bit premature)! Apparently there is an internal memo from VW going around stating that the Mk2 Tiguan's tow bars will be rated for a downball weight of 200kg. This applies to new vehicles and will also apply retrospectively to ones already sold!

Apparently prospective buyers are being informed of this. Just thought you guys might like to know and also to keep an eye out for a formal memo to post up in the forums.

Please don’t toy with me :). Is this something dealers would know about now, or when/how do we get this confirmed?


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[iDiesel]

Awesome if true...
It seemed odd that they applied the euro rating.

[Janus77]

I bought my Tiguan hoping to tow a caravan, and only learnt about down weight after it was in the garage (the car). If we get a 200kg down weight I’ll be thrilled.


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[iDiesel]

In case you haven't seen it, check out this link - Volkswagen Tiguan 2018 Tow Test Review (https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/volkswagen-tiguan-2018-tow-test-review-113131/)
This review pics was what sold me on the grey colour

[Janus77]

Veew, can you give any more details mate?


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[Chalnoth]

I contacted VW Australia and got this repsonse.

"Thank you for contacting Volkswagen Australia.

In regards to your enquiry, it is correct that the MY19 Tiguan has an upgradedtow ball down weight of 200kg. This is also retrospective to Generation 2Tiguan's like yours. In order to meet the new compliance you will need to visita Dealership for the new labels and owner's supplement."

[Janus77]

I called the dealer I purchase the car from (with the dealer tow bar fitted) and was told they would need to replace the tow bar assembly to update the down weight to 200kg.
Have called the VW customer service line to ask for clarification, I struggle to see how the tow bar would not be sufficient. I had a suspension shop look and they said it looked just as strong as any other.


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[iDiesel]

I contacted VW Australia and got this repsonse.

"Thank you for contacting Volkswagen Australia.

In regards to your enquiry, it is correct that the MY19 Tiguan has an upgradedtow ball down weight of 200kg. This is also retrospective to Generation 2Tiguan's like yours. In order to meet the new compliance you will need to visita Dealership for the new labels and owner's supplement."

Great, I’ll get them to update to 5year warranty while they are at 😚

[Chalnoth]

Did you get a response from customer service?

[Janus77]

Not yet will post their response when I receive it.


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[MrSteve]

Does anyone know if Trailer Assist is available in Australia ?

[iDiesel]

Does anyone know if Trailer Assist is available in Australia ?
Don’t think so

[Janus77]

Volkswagen have confirmed the 200kg, however they directed me to talk to a dealer for further clarification.

The VW factory tow bar assembly is made by Best Bars. As you can see it specifies a maximum 100kg tongue down load however this may be due to the VW car limit and now be representative of the tow assembly limit.
Am contacting best bar to check.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/10/8298b30f714ef24e64fd78e259293d91-1.jpg


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[Janus77]

Ok the dealer advised that the factory tow bar is also updated to 200kg, so I don’t need a new tow bar assembly installed. There is meant to be an owners manual supplement and a new sticker. Am waiting to hear how I can obtain this from them.


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[Janus77]

The kit number for the owners handbook supplement and updated 200kg down load stickers is 5NATIGKITTB

The parts department I spoke to said the kits were showing as out of stock, however he was able to find each of the component items included in the kit separately.
The cost of the kit is $12.10.

Huzzah people!

Update: having the stickers installed tomorrow, dealer doing it for free.

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[Chalnoth]

Awsome news thanks for updating us with the details.

[Janus77]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/10/ef18cfbbfb3c30754ad370a4f08744e6-1.jpg


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[iDiesel]

Awesome job!
I'll call my dealer tomorrow

[Janus77]

Thanks to veew for the heads up.


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[jpvw01]

It's interesting how regional marketing departments of European car manufactures can arbitrarily increase (double) a cars specifications to meet local requirements. It's the same for the Touareg where in Europe the towball weight is 140kg vs 280kg here in Aus.

The R-Line in the carsales towing test earlier in this thread seems to be handling the ~100kg towball weight ok but I saw a non R-Line Tiguan towing a similar caravan recently and there was significant sag in the rear end.

[Jackson22]

I had a Hayman Reese towbar fitted for $1100. Looks neat enough and no cutting required (R-Line). Only downside is that that the electrics are not OEM so the rear parking sensors have to be manually muted on the touchscreen when reversing with the trailer hitch installed, and the auto tailgate opening is not disabled so it would be possible to accidentally open it with attachments (bike rack etc) hanging off the tow bar.


HI. follow up question please. I am thinking of doing the same.. Tiguan Adventure and Hayman Reese towbar to go mostly with Thule bike rack. Do the rear parking sensors have to be turned off at all time, or just when the towball is in? Ie. so if the tow bar is on but the hitch and ball isn't it's ok? usually i've just left the ball etc in and it might be a PITA to have to take it out.. first world problem, I know.. and I am not a tow bar expert, so don't know the terminology.. . Not so fussed to turn off sensors on the infrequent occasion I put the bike rack on, but would be a pain to have to do it all the time, just because I want to leave the square bit in with the ball on..

[IsDon]

HI. follow up question please. I am thinking of doing the same.. Tiguan Adventure and Hayman Reese towbar to go mostly with Thule bike rack. Do the rear parking sensors have to be turned off at all time, or just when the towball is in? Ie. so if the tow bar is on but the hitch and ball isn't it's ok? usually i've just left the ball etc in and it might be a PITA to have to take it out.. first world problem, I know.. and I am not a tow bar expert, so don't know the terminology.. . Not so fussed to turn off sensors on the infrequent occasion I put the bike rack on, but would be a pain to have to do it all the time, just because I want to leave the square bit in with the ball on..

The sensors are turned off once you plug lights into the plug. That is how the car knows a trailer (bike rack) is attached. If nothing is plugged into the socket, with or without a ball fitted, the sensors will remain active.

This holds for all of the other modules that are coded to detect a trailer. Camera, boot, abs, engine, gearbox, stability control, suspension etc etc etc.

Once coded you should be also able to manually tell the car whether to behave like it has a trailer, or not.

This is based on coding I’ve done on Audis, but I’m pretty certain it would be the same on all VAG vehicles. We don’t have a tow bar in our Tig.


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[Jackson22]

The sensors are turned off once you plug lights into the plug. That is how the car knows a trailer (bike rack) is attached. If nothing is plugged into the socket, with or without a ball fitted, the sensors will remain active.

This holds for all of the other modules that are coded to detect a trailer. Camera, boot, abs, engine, gearbox, stability control, suspension etc etc etc.

Once coded you should be also able to manually tell the car whether to behave like it has a trailer, or not.

This is based on coding I’ve done on Audis, but I’m pretty certain it would be the same on all VAG vehicles. We don’t have a tow bar in our Tig.


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that great info, thanks very much. so in order to keep the sensors working, I may just have to remove the hitch when not towing.. looks neater anyway, or perhaps tell the car to pretend there is a trailer even when not plugged in.. sounds like the non VW will do fine and save me more than $800.

[IsDon]

that great info, thanks very much. so in order to keep the sensors working, I may just have to remove the hitch when not towing.. looks neater anyway, or perhaps tell the car to pretend there is a trailer even when not plugged in.. sounds like the non VW will do fine and save me more than $800.

You can leave the hitch and/or tow ball on the vehicle and it won’t stop the sensors from working. The trigger for turning the sensors off is when the electrical plug for the trailer (bike rack) lights is plugged in.

When you say “non vw” I assume you mean tow bar. Absolutely. I would never put a standard bar on from a dealer. They’ll charge twice the price and it will be no better. In some cases worse.

In my case Audi wanted $4000 to fit a genuine Audi bar on my A6 Allroad. Turns out it wasn’t a genuine bar at all. It was a NZ made Best Bars which was, like a Hayman Reece, basically a horizontally mounted box section receiver which required a very visible cutout of the bumper.

After a bit of research I found that the real original OEM bar is in fact a Westfalia. German made. If you bought an Audi in Europe, and asked for a factory bar, this is what you would get. These things are a beautiful piece of engineering and have a vertical receiver. Instead of a towball you have a gooseneck which connects under the bumper. There is a cutout but you can’t see it unless you lie under the car. It cost me $1000 delivered from PF Jones in the UK and included the bar, gooseneck, adapter plug (20 pin round to 7 pin round) and electronics module.

Fitted it myself over a weekend. Then I realised I would have to code the car. $500 for a RossTech VCDS cable and a bit more research and the job was done.

Not sure about the Tig, but on the Audi you can select towing mode on and off through the MMI. I’m sure there would be similar settings on the Tig once you coded the car. It will automatically select once you plug in the lights, but you can switch it off if you wish.

Coincidentally I just bought a 4 bike rack for my car and it fits perfectly on the Westfalia gooseneck. Came with lights etc like the Thule ones for under $200 off eBay.

[Rescue23]

HI. follow up question please. I am thinking of doing the same.. Tiguan Adventure and Hayman Reese towbar to go mostly with Thule bike rack. Do the rear parking sensors have to be turned off at all time, or just when the towball is in? Ie. so if the tow bar is on but the hitch and ball isn't it's ok? usually i've just left the ball etc in and it might be a PITA to have to take it out.. first world problem, I know.. and I am not a tow bar expert, so don't know the terminology.. . Not so fussed to turn off sensors on the infrequent occasion I put the bike rack on, but would be a pain to have to do it all the time, just because I want to leave the square bit in with the ball on..

I leave the ball permanently attached to the ballmount (the square metal "tube"), so it's a simple matter to fit or remove the ballmount (with ball attached) if I want to tow. Only takes a minute or so to slide it on, put the pin through and tighten the nut. Much easier than removing/fitting the towball every time. I only use it for a Thule bike rack anyway. If you have the non OEM tow bar (Hayman Reece etc) it's very unlikely that it will come with OEM wiring, so when you plug in the electrics the car will NOT know there is a tow bar attached. The parking sensors will then sound continuously when you select reverse gear, as presumably they are detecting the towball. You can cancel the sensors on the infotainment screen or put up with the noise until you cease reversing when it will stop by itself. If you choose to leave the ballmount and ball attached permanently your reverse parking sensors are basically useless as you will have to cancel the noise every time you reverse, regardless of whether you have the bike rack attached

[IsDon]

I leave the ball permanently attached to the ballmount (the square metal "tube"), so it's a simple matter to fit or remove the ballmount (with ball attached) if I want to tow. Only takes a minute or so to slide it on, put the pin through and tighten the nut. Much easier than removing/fitting the towball every time. I only use it for a Thule bike rack anyway. If you have the non OEM tow bar (Hayman Reece etc) it's very unlikely that it will come with OEM wiring, so when you plug in the electrics the car will NOT know there is a tow bar attached. The parking sensors will then sound continuously when you select reverse gear, as presumably they are detecting the towball. You can cancel the sensors on the infotainment screen or put up with the noise until you cease reversing when it will stop by itself. If you choose to leave the ballmount and ball attached permanently your reverse parking sensors are basically useless as you will have to cancel the noise every time you reverse, regardless of whether you have the bike rack attached

There are four sensors on the rear bumper. Not one of them is anywhere near the centre of the bumper. As such it’s highly unlikely for the sensors to detect a tow ball. The reason the sensors are switched off is so they don’t detect a trailer when you’re reversing.

On my car I can put the tow ball gooseneck on the car, and then reverse the car onto the trailer using the camera, it actually gives you a little trend vector so you can see where the tow ball will travel as you turn the wheel. Makes it simple to place the ball under the trailer hitch. No beeping from the attached tow ball at all. It does detect the trailer approaching though.

Most aftermarket tow bars have a module that will interface the CANBUS these days. If not, I wouldn’t fit one. Westfalia, the real OEM bar certainly DO come with the OEM electronics module. I know. I’ve fitted it myself.

[Rescue23]

There are four sensors on the rear bumper. Not one of them is anywhere near the centre of the bumper. As such it’s highly unlikely for the sensors to detect a tow ball. The reason the sensors are switched off is so they don’t detect a trailer when you’re reversing.

On my car I can put the tow ball gooseneck on the car, and then reverse the car onto the trailer using the camera, it actually gives you a little trend vector so you can see where the tow ball will travel as you turn the wheel. Makes it simple to place the ball under the trailer hitch. No beeping from the attached tow ball at all. It does detect the trailer approaching though.

Most aftermarket tow bars have a module that will interface the CANBUS these days. If not, I wouldn’t fit one. Westfalia, the real OEM bar certainly DO come with the OEM electronics module. I know. I’ve fitted it myself.

I assure you the sensors do indeed detect the towball - the situation is exactly as I have described above. I have just gone out and slid the towball mount into the slot with towball attached. Nothing on the towball and no electrics plugged in. As soon as reverse gear is selected the sensor tone sounds continuously, with a red obstacle line displayed immediately at the back of the car. It can be muted via the display. I then slid the towball mount into the slot WITHOUT the towball attached and selected reverse gear - nothing - no tone and no indication of an obstacle immediately behind the car. I have no idea what wiring comes with "most aftermarket tow bars". I can only speak of my experience with the Hayman Reese. The OEM bar from the dealer was another $700 and as I only intend to use it with a bike rack it doesn't seem worth the extra money just to automatically cancel the sensors instead of doing it manually.

[IsDon]

I assure you the sensors do indeed detect the towball - the situation is exactly as I have described above. I have just gone out and slid the towball mount into the slot with towball attached. Nothing on the towball and no electrics plugged in. As soon as reverse gear is selected the sensor tone sounds continuously, with a red obstacle line displayed immediately at the back of the car. It can be muted via the display. I then slid the towball mount into the slot WITHOUT the towball attached and selected reverse gear - nothing - no tone and no indication of an obstacle immediately behind the car. I have no idea what wiring comes with "most aftermarket tow bars". I can only speak of my experience with the Hayman Reese. The OEM bar from the dealer was another $700 and as I only intend to use it with a bike rack it doesn't seem worth the extra money just to automatically cancel the sensors instead of doing it manually.

Since when did this become a p1ssing contest?

Ok. Well that’s poor design. I’d say it’s because you have a non OEM bar that may sit out further than the OEM bar. It makes no sense that the sensor would howl away constantly while your trying to back the car onto the trailer. Knowing how particular za Germans are about these things, they’d be mortified by that outcome.

It may also detect the bar fitted by VW. Which, as I said before, is not really an OEM bar. The car was designed for the European OEM bar, not the poor cuz from NZ.

As I also said before, the towing module detecting a trailer does a lot more than just turning off the sensors. In my car, which is a 2013 model it effects about a dozen different functions of which the rear sensors are but one. I suggest the Tig would have even more given its 5 years newer design. If all you fit is a bike rack then no problem. But if you do borrow a trailer from Bunnings one day you might have an issue.

[dmn]

Since when did this become a p1ssing contest?

Ok. Well that’s poor design. I’d say it’s because you have a non OEM bar that may sit out further than the OEM bar. It makes no sense that the sensor would howl away constantly while your trying to back the car onto the trailer. Knowing how particular za Germans are about these things, they’d be mortified by that outcome.

It may also detect the bar fitted by VW. Which, as I said before, is not really an OEM bar. The car was designed for the European OEM bar, not the poor cuz from NZ.

As I also said before, the towing module detecting a trailer does a lot more than just turning off the sensors. In my car, which is a 2013 model it effects about a dozen different functions of which the rear sensors are but one. I suggest the Tig would have even more given its 5 years newer design. If all you fit is a bike rack then no problem. But if you do borrow a trailer from Bunnings one day you might have an issue.

I'm with IsDon, sounds like poor design to me. Tiguan R-line here...I spent 12 months trying to decide whether to grab the OEM or the Genuine Australian VW towbar which is made by Best Bars, ended up going with the Gen VW bar so was sourced via a colleague at trade price which was around $1150 and ended up fitting it myself which took around 4 hours. There are two components, the towbar kit and the electrical installation kit, both with full instructions. The electrical installation also includes the module and all you have to do is plug in 2 connectors behind the LHS rear trim, connect one 2-pin block under the dash and all done...it's actually quite easy + nothing like the tow bar installation on the Mark 1 tigs. The only issue you will have, with the electrical installation kit there are 3 codes that need to be individually programmed into the vehicle and even though I have the VCDS cable (not the latest version) my chances of being successful would be fairly remote as there are so many areas that need to be programmed to make my Tig 'trailer aware' so I just rang up the dealer that I purchased the car from, took it down and they did it for me, wait for this...for free!

As an FYI, I leave the tongue/ball on and have no issues when reversing. Hope that helps someone :)

[iDiesel]

As an FYI, I leave the tongue/ball on and have no issues when reversing. Hope that helps someone :)
+1

I have genuine VW tow bar and leave the ball and tongue in place permanently and reverse sensors don’t beep or “see” the ball & tongue

[IsDon]

I'm with IsDon, sounds like poor design to me. Tiguan R-line here...I spent 12 months trying to decide whether to grab the OEM or the Genuine Australian VW towbar which is made by Best Bars, ended up going with the Gen VW bar so was sourced via a colleague at trade price which was around $1150 and ended up fitting it myself which took around 4 hours. There are two components, the towbar kit and the electrical installation kit, both with full instructions. The electrical installation also includes the module and all you have to do is plug in 2 connectors behind the LHS rear trim, connect one 2-pin block under the dash and all done...it's actually quite easy + nothing like the tow bar installation on the Mark 1 tigs. The only issue you will have, with the electrical installation kit there are 3 codes that need to be individually programmed into the vehicle and even though I have the VCDS cable (not the latest version) my chances of being successful would be fairly remote as there are so many areas that need to be programmed to make my Tig 'trailer aware' so I just rang up the dealer that I purchased the car from, took it down and they did it for me, wait for this...for free!

As an FYI, I leave the tongue/ball on and have no issues when reversing. Hope that helps someone :)

Thanks dmn.

If you have an older VCDS cable you might find you wouldn’t be able to program the Tig. I found my older cable wouldn’t even recognise some of the modules. I traded my old cable in for a new VCDS HEX/NET which now works with everything. As well as my comparatively antiquated A6. The Tig is my wife’s. I’m only allowed to tinker with it occasionally.

I was thinking a little more in this towball sensor issue. I would not be at all surprised if the sensors not detecting the tow ball is actually a function of programming. It’s entirely possible that once the car is correctly coded it still sees (actually more correctly hears as its an ultrasonic sensor) the towball but is programmed to ignore that particular signature. That would explain why an uncoded Hayman Reece is visible but a VW ball isn’t.

I’m continually amazed how particular the Germans are about some of these things. The more I discover the more I have to dip my lid to their ingenuity. In my car, once a trailer is plugged in, the little overall picture of the car in the settings page on the MMI even has a little trailer attached. That just one example. How it logs and then deletes fault codes it considers spurious is another work of genius. That’s why the sensors picking up the tow ball didn’t make sense. The Germans would never accept such a design flaw.

[IsDon]

+1

I have genuine VW tow bar and leave the ball and tongue in place permanently and reverse sensors don’t beep or “see” the ball & tongue

Thanks mate.

Yep, it’s looking more and more like the issue is the Hayman Reece bar, and possibly a lack of towing module and coding. A combination of which has the sensors confused.

[dmn]

Thanks dmn.

If you have an older VCDS cable you might find you wouldn’t be able to program the Tig. I found my older cable wouldn’t even recognise some of the modules. I traded my old cable in for a new VCDS HEX/NET which now works with everything. As well as my comparatively antiquated A6. The Tig is my wife’s. I’m only allowed to tinker with it occasionally.

I was thinking a little more in this towball sensor issue. I would not be at all surprised if the sensors not detecting the tow ball is actually a function of programming. It’s entirely possible that once the car is correctly coded it still sees (actually more correctly hears as its an ultrasonic sensor) the towball but is programmed to ignore that particular signature. That would explain why an uncoded Hayman Reece is visible but a VW ball isn’t.

I’m continually amazed how particular the Germans are about some of these things. The more I discover the more I have to dip my lid to their ingenuity. In my car, once a trailer is plugged in, the little overall picture of the car in the settings page on the MMI even has a little trailer attached. That just one example. How it logs and then deletes fault codes it considers spurious is another work of genius. That’s why the sensors picking up the tow ball didn’t make sense. The Germans would never accept such a design flaw.

Thanks IsDon - you are correct re the older VCDS cable, it can see some things but not all so time for a trade-up. I managed to code traffic alerts/auto high beam but lucked out with the others as the modules cannot be seen...not surprising really. I had re code the auto high beam as the trip to the dealer obviously removed those settings but the traffic alert still works.
As I also have B8 S4 Avant/2015 A3 I am hoping that the new VCDS HEX/NET will make no difference to the older vehicles.

Yes, you have got to love the ingenuity of the Germans...I guess that's why I have 3 of their cars :)

[IsDon]

Thanks IsDon - you are correct re the older VCDS cable, it can see some things but not all so time for a trade-up. I managed to code traffic alerts/auto high beam but lucked out with the others as the modules cannot be seen...not surprising really. I had re code the auto high beam as the trip to the dealer obviously removed those settings but the traffic alert still works.
As I also have B8 S4 Avant/2015 A3 I am hoping that the new VCDS HEX/NET will make no difference to the older vehicles.

Yes, you have got to love the ingenuity of the Germans...I guess that's why I have 3 of their cars :)

No troubles with the new cable on older cars. Only issue is it’s limited to 10 VINs unless you pay for the professional licence which, I think, is $100 more. No worries if you only tinker with your own cars, but I help a lot of guys on this forum, and OzAudi, with programming on their cars so the VINs add up. I’m almost out of licences on the new cable.

[dmn]

No troubles with the new cable on older cars. Only issue is it’s limited to 10 VINs unless you pay for the professional licence which, I think, is $100 more. No worries if you only tinker with your own cars, but I help a lot of guys on this forum, and OzAudi, with programming on their cars so the VINs add up. I’m almost out of licences on the new cable.

Good to know re the 10 VINs...can you purchase the Professional licence and apply the digital licence to the new VCDS NEX/NET or do you need to send the cable back to Ross Tech and wait for them to send another?

[IsDon]

Good to know re the 10 VINs...can you purchase the Professional licence and apply the digital licence to the new VCDS NEX/NET or do you need to send the cable back to Ross Tech and wait for them to send another?

You can just add the licence later and it will unlock the unlimited VINs professional licence. No need to send the cable back it’s online and instantaneous.

If you think you may need the professional licence it is cheaper to get it up front rather than unlock it later. They will also give you a trade in for you old cable. All the details are on the website.

[dmn]

You can just add the licence later and it will unlock the unlimited VINs professional licence. No need to send the cable back it’s online and instantaneous.

If you think you may need the professional licence it is cheaper to get it up front rather than unlock it later. They will also give you a trade in for you old cable. All the details are on the website.

Many thanks :)

[jdstephens]

I'm with IsDon, sounds like poor design to me. Tiguan R-line here...I spent 12 months trying to decide whether to grab the OEM or the Genuine Australian VW towbar which is made by Best Bars, ended up going with the Gen VW bar so was sourced via a colleague at trade price which was around $1150 and ended up fitting it myself which took around 4 hours. There are two components, the towbar kit and the electrical installation kit, both with full instructions. The electrical installation also includes the module and all you have to do is plug in 2 connectors behind the LHS rear trim, connect one 2-pin block under the dash and all done...it's actually quite easy + nothing like the tow bar installation on the Mark 1 tigs. The only issue you will have, with the electrical installation kit there are 3 codes that need to be individually programmed into the vehicle and even though I have the VCDS cable (not the latest version) my chances of being successful would be fairly remote as there are so many areas that need to be programmed to make my Tig 'trailer aware' so I just rang up the dealer that I purchased the car from, took it down and they did it for me, wait for this...for free!

As an FYI, I leave the tongue/ball on and have no issues when reversing. Hope that helps someone :)

do you have a link to where I can buy the genuine Australian vw tow bar?

[iDiesel]

Thanks mate.

Yep, it’s looking more and more like the issue is the Hayman Reece bar, and possibly a lack of towing module and coding. A combination of which has the sensors confused.
Finally got to using my towbar for the bike rack over the Xmas holidays on a road trip to Brisbane.
Soon as we started the car to head off early in the morning, the car had a couple warning lightd
s on the dash. The first message was something about some lights not working properly, and as the Mrs was driving up the M1 from Sydney, I looked up the warning lights.
I put it down to the fact that I had plugged in my bike rack as it has combined number plate light and rear light with a secondary brake light integrated. Also noticed BSM was also disabled and confirmed in the manual. So when we got to the end of the M1 at Newcastle, I decided to pull over and unplug the bike rack from the tow socket. All warnings lights dis appeared off the dash and bsm back working, but when reversing, it has constant beeping and RTA auto brakes abruptly. Was able to work ou5 5hta you can s
disable it via onscreen menu on the discover pro screen.
In Brissy, I hooked up the bike rack to a Prado and all lights etc worked as designed, so I have deduced that the wiring or module is either not wired correctly or faulty as rear lights work thought the tow bar plug, but not the brake lights...

Now for another trip back to the dealer for another fix...

[IsDon]

Finally got to using my towbar for the bike rack over the Xmas holidays on a road trip to Brisbane.
Soon as we started the car to head off early in the morning, the car had a couple warning lightd
s on the dash. The first message was something about some lights not working properly, and as the Mrs was driving up the M1 from Sydney, I looked up the warning lights.
I put it down to the fact that I had plugged in my bike rack as it has combined number plate light and rear light with a secondary brake light integrated. Also noticed BSM was also disabled and confirmed in the manual. So when we got to the end of the M1 at Newcastle, I decided to pull over and unplug the bike rack from the tow socket. All warnings lights dis appeared off the dash and bsm back working, but when reversing, it has constant beeping and RTA auto brakes abruptly. Was able to work ou5 5hta you can s
disable it via onscreen menu on the discover pro screen.
In Brissy, I hooked up the bike rack to a Prado and all lights etc worked as designed, so I have deduced that the wiring or module is either not wired correctly or faulty as rear lights work thought the tow bar plug, but not the brake lights...

Now for another trip back to the dealer for another fix...

It could still be a coding issue. I’d go down that path before blaming the towing module. It could be the module, but I’d check the coding first.

In any case, it’s still under warranty. I’d try it with a trailer or something other than your bike rack too see if you get the same symptoms.

The combined number plate and rear light is not an issue. What may be an issue though, depending on your install, is a uniquely Australian problem. Europe have separate wiring for the left tail light and the right tail light. In Australia we only have one wire. When you switch your lights on, the module will see the unwired side as an open circuit and give you a warning that you lights have failed on that side. The way to fix that is to bridge the two tail light wires in the car side of the plug.

[dmn]

do you have a link to where I can buy the genuine Australian vw tow bar?

Sorry, no link, just waltzed into the VW dealer with my VIN and the correct bar with the wiring module was purchased. It was the latest bar with the 200kg sticker, its all boxed up and ready to go - hth :)

[Hillbilly]

Sorry, no link, just waltzed into the VW dealer with my VIN and the correct bar with the wiring module was purchased. It was the latest bar with the 200kg sticker, its all boxed up and ready to go - hth :)

As said above just because the bar fits doesnt mean it increases the limit of the vehicle. As per my remarks on early Toyotas.

As far as been able to find out on here the towball limit is 100kg for a 2017 unless its different in your manual or specs

[Ozsko]

As said above just because the bar fits doesnt mean it increases the limit of the vehicle. As per my remarks on early Toyotas.

As far as been able to find out on here the towball limit is 100kg for a 2017 unless its different in your manual or specs

That doesn't make sense, I can put a later manual in the glovebox to show Trevor Plod.

[Hillbilly]

That doesn't make sense, I can put a later manual in the glovebox to show Trevor Plod.

You can do what you like but probably wont make it legal if limit for car is less than what towbar says.

Makers change limits on new models but often dont make it retrospective and so while a 2018 rated bar may fit a 2017 vehicle it doesnt change the original limits for the vehicle.

EG the 95 Landcruisers were only rated to 2500kg The 96 model was uprated to 3500kg and the new bar fitted the old model. Toyota refused to uprate the older one. Same thing probably applies here if the 2017 is ,lmited to 100kg ball weight thats what it is regardless of what the towbar says.. ASK VW what the story is

[Ozsko]

I can't find anywhere that VW has said that the older vehicles when fitted with the new tow bar do not comply so by omission they are sanctioning the change. Can you show me where VW have put a rider on the older vehicles when it is fitted with a new tow bar? BTW I am playing the devils advocate here and nothing more. Has anyone seen a tech bulletin saying to dealers that owners must be warned of the limits of different vehicles when fitted with the 200kg tow bar? If not then VW are condoning the new weight limit on older vehicles and Toyotas are not VW's.

[jdstephens]

Sorry, no link, just waltzed into the VW dealer with my VIN and the correct bar with the wiring module was purchased. It was the latest bar with the 200kg sticker, its all boxed up and ready to go - hth :)

Ok thanks. Do you know if the bumper on the Tiguan R-Line needs to be modified (cut) for this bumper to fit?
i ask because I have a Wolfsburg to be deleivered first week of feb and the first thing I will do is put a tow bar on.

[Hillbilly]

I can't find anywhere that VW has said that the older vehicles when fitted with the new tow bar do not comply so by omission they are sanctioning the change. Can you show me where VW have put a rider on the older vehicles when it is fitted with a new tow bar? BTW I am playing the devils advocate here and nothing more. Has anyone seen a tech bulletin saying to dealers that owners must be warned of the limits of different vehicles when fitted with the 200kg tow bar? If not then VW are condoning the new weight limit on older vehicles and Toyotas are not VW's.

The same rules apply to all makes and the point you dont seem to accept is that unless VW actually publish an alteration to the model specs the original still applies as it did with the Toyota.

Just because they make something that fits on a vehicle but exceeds its design parameters does not make it right or legal.

DMN went in and bought a bar that fitted, certainly but to put it on a prev model that has a lighter limit may not make it legal.

Only VW can answer the question truthfully.

They dont have to put a rider or anything on the older vehicles They have stated its limit and havent changed it to accommodate a newer accessorry and by not doing that they have left the limit the same as it was.

The numpty in spares probably is only interested in the fact that it fits and thats it.

He is not there to tell you whats what, its up to owners to ensure their vehicle is legal and compliant

[Ozsko]

The same rules apply to all makes and the point you dont seem to accept is that unless VW actually publish an alteration to the model specs the original still applies as it did with the Toyota.

Just because they make something that fits on a vehicle but exceeds its design parameters does not make it right or legal.

DMN went in and bought a bar that fitted, certainly but to put it on a prev model that has a lighter limit may not make it legal.

Only VW can answer the question truthfully.

They dont have to put a rider or anything on the older vehicles They have stated its limit and havent changed it to accommodate a newer accessorry and by not doing that they have left the limit the same as it was.

The numpty in spares probably is only interested in the fact that it fits and thats it.

He is not there to tell you whats what, its up to owners to ensure their vehicle is legal and compliant

You don't read well, again devil's advocate, if VW do not want dealers to make a vehicle non compliant it is up to them as the overall technical supervisor to make sure DEALERS know that they will make the vehicle non compliant and not the OWNER as the owner is relying on VW to have ensured this and again Toyotas have nothing to do with V W's but you don't seem to get that point. What Toyota did is nothing to do with what VW should or could have done. VW if they do not want a dealer to make a vehicle non compliant in one of their franchised/authorised workshops will need to issue a TB to that effect and spare parts would be made aware of it and towbars issued with correct applicability via VIN numbers. It does not appear to have been done so far. Yes I am aware of all this stuff because I worked in automotive dealers for a long time in both service and spare parts.

[dmn]

Ok thanks. Do you know if the bumper on the Tiguan R-Line needs to be modified (cut) for this bumper to fit?
i ask because I have a Wolfsburg to be deleivered first week of feb and the first thing I will do is put a tow bar on.
Hi jdstephens - on my MY17 R-Line I had to cut the bumper when it was off, the template/cut size comes with the fitting kit, there was no way it would have fitted without cutting it as it jams on the top of the tongue so kinks the base of the bumper in and looks like sh*t. As an fyi, I used a dremel with a high speed disc but be careful as its polyurethane so goes through like butter...just do a bit at a time and check the clearances by just sitting the bumper near its normal position and do a visual, 2 peeps are recommended, once on, you don't even see it. There is also a rubber strip (supplied) that fits between the bar and the bit that you cut out so it looks tidy when the bumper is fitted, its not hard to do so just take your time. I am not aware if my bumper is the same as the Wolfsburg though so others would be better commenting on that one - hth :)

[Hillbilly]

You don't read well, again devil's advocate, if VW do not want dealers to make a vehicle non compliant it is up to them as the overall technical supervisor to make sure DEALERS know that they will make the vehicle non compliant and not the OWNER as the owner is relying on VW to have ensured this and again Toyotas have nothing to do with V W's but you don't seem to get that point. What Toyota did is nothing to do with what VW should or could have done. VW if they do not want a dealer to make a vehicle non compliant in one of their franchised/authorised workshops will need to issue a TB to that effect and spare parts would be made aware of it and towbars issued with correct applicability via VIN numbers. It does not appear to have been done so far. Yes I am aware of all this stuff because I worked in automotive dealers for a long time in both service and spare parts.

Was only using Toyota as an example and there are other makes with similar situations. The ADR rules state only towing capacity and leave the towball weight to the manufacturer. It seems unfortunate the VW have not issued anything and legally they dont probably have to as when the vehicle was built it would have had a rating and thats it. There are plenty of things that "can " be fitted but shouldnt be.
Also the rating of a towbar does not trump the manufacturers rating for the vehicle. Im not trying to be smart but they are the rules as far as I am aware. I can probably buy a bar for my Passat with a higher ballweight limit than VW rate the vehicle for but it wouldnt be legal would it.

Pajeros have the same problem as do some Prados in which later models have a higher rating than older ones and yet the uprated towbars fit both but not legally on the old ones

Why doesnt an owner simply ask VW head office and get a true ruling on it.

It states in my manual and also in the brochure for the model year what the towball weight limit is so does it not do that in a Tiguan

[dmn]

The same rules apply to all makes and the point you dont seem to accept is that unless VW actually publish an alteration to the model specs the original still applies as it did with the Toyota.

Just because they make something that fits on a vehicle but exceeds its design parameters does not make it right or legal.

DMN went in and bought a bar that fitted, certainly but to put it on a prev model that has a lighter limit may not make it legal.

Only VW can answer the question truthfully.

They dont have to put a rider or anything on the older vehicles They have stated its limit and havent changed it to accommodate a newer accessorry and by not doing that they have left the limit the same as it was.

The numpty in spares probably is only interested in the fact that it fits and thats it.

He is not there to tell you whats what, its up to owners to ensure their vehicle is legal and compliant

Hi Hillbilly - as far as I am concerned, the bar is legal, see image that comes with the fitting kit which is attached to the 'B' pillar on my Tig, this was the main reason I purchased this bar, its complaint and meets the ADR rules so there should not be any insurance issues should the need ever arise:

41979

I am aware that VW did have issues with the towbars on the tiggy's earlier on in the MK11's but this has now been obviously sorted, and not before time + the box that the towbar comes with has its own part number with all the bits and pieces clearly identified and even has the fitting instructions. The electrics has a seperate part number, and again, all bits are clearly identified with instructions. As we all know they are made by best bars for VW but that's how it is, if you don't like it, don't buy it. I am also aware that Westfalia make the OEM bars but the biggest issue I had was not the actual towbar, it was the wiring/coding as there are some cowboys out there. As an FYI, the electrics module just plugs in so no cutting/modifying is required..

There is only one towbar, at this stage for the tiguans, how do I know this? - the numpty that you are referring to is my son who works in the genuine parts department. BTW, don't really car about the tonque download weight as I only have a 6X4 trailer. :)

[Clarkie]

My old trailer hitch lock that I was using on another car doesn’t fit the Tiguan. I think it’s the arched part underneath the ball that doesn’t allow it to get high enough to put the cross bar thru.

Anyone know of any brands that fit?

[jdstephens]

Hi jdstephens - on my MY17 R-Line I had to cut the bumper when it was off, the template/cut size comes with the fitting kit, there was no way it would have fitted without cutting it as it jams on the top of the tongue so kinks the base of the bumper in and looks like sh*t.

Thanks for this!

Was this a VW towbar or from a 3rd party? Because the service department at my dealer has just told me it doesn't need to be cut. I'll be annoyed when I pick up the vehicle and see the bumper has been cut after been told it won't.

[jdstephens]

So before I purchased my vehicle I was quoted $1600 for supply and fit a towbar, now that Ive signed a contract Ive been told its now $1733. I just rang the spare parts department from the same dealer and they tell me its $2125. Amazing how prices keep going up. Looks like I take the $1733 offer.

Of note, the service department has told me that after the towbar is fitted it will effect the 'foot swipe to open the boot' because it partially covers the sensor. Damn, has anyone noticed this?

[dmn]

Thanks for this!

Was this a VW towbar or from a 3rd party? Because the service department at my dealer has just told me it doesn't need to be cut. I'll be annoyed when I pick up the vehicle and see the bumper has been cut after been told it won't.
Purchased from VW...see part number on image. It had to be cut on my r-line as there was no way it would have fitted...if the Wolfsburg has a different spec bumper as compared to the r-line I am sure somebody on this forum can answer

[jdstephens]

Purchased from VW...see part number on image. It had to be cut on my r-line as there was no way it would have fitted...if the Wolfsburg has a different spec bumper as compared to the r-line I am sure somebody on this forum can answer

i think it’s the same bumper because the Wolfsburg is essentially all the option packs rolled into one.
Strange the service department reckons no need to cut, would they be added spacers or something to lower the bar a bit?

[Clarkie]

So before I purchased my vehicle I was quoted $1600 for supply and fit a towbar, now that Ive signed a contract Ive been told its now $1733. I just rang the spare parts department from the same dealer and they tell me its $2125. Amazing how prices keep going up. Looks like I take the $1733 offer.

Of note, the service department has told me that after the towbar is fitted it will effect the 'foot swipe to open the boot' because it partially covers the sensor. Damn, has anyone noticed this?

Mine was $1,600 and that was in my original contract. Should be cheaper after market I assume as stamp duty doesn’t need to be applied.

Yeh mine (Allspace R-Line) also has been cut but you’d only ever notice if you uninstalled the bar. That would leave you with just the plastic edging around where they have cut.

[Simonr23]

Can confirm foot swipe is fine :)

I was told I’d have no foot swipe after towbar. Fancy that salesmen knowing nothing...

Insert your your foot straight in and then then straight out((so kick towards the engine), and be a about a step back from the car immediately afterwards) about 20-30cm either side of the towbar and wait 1-2 seconds. The blinkers flash and the boot opens :)

[Simonr23]

Can confirm foot swipe is fine :)

I was told I’d have no foot swipe after towbar. Fancy that salesmen knowing nothing...

Insert your your foot straight in and then then straight out((so kick towards the engine), and be a about a step back from the car immediately afterwards) about 20-30cm either side of the towbar and wait 1-2 seconds. The blinkers flash and the boot opens :) as long as the keys are on your person.

[mesophyte]

Can confirm foot swipe is fine :) I was told I’d have no foot swipe after towbar. Fancy that salesmen knowing nothing...

Same, works fine with the towbar. Nobody warned me that it wouldn't work - but on the topic of salespeople not knowing their product, mine said that the cruise control speed cannot be incremented/decreased in 1km/h steps, only 10km/h. Obviously this is wrong, it can.

[jdstephens]

Same, works fine with the towbar. Nobody warned me that it wouldn't work - but on the topic of salespeople not knowing their product, mine said that the cruise control speed cannot be incremented/decreased in 1km/h steps, only 10km/h. Obviously this is wrong, it can.i got told this as well when going for a test drive, was happy to watch a YouTube vid which proved him wrong!

[Seth]

Hi all, a few months later and I’ve just had the Westfalia bar installed on our R-Line. Went with the advice provided my markusgmt. Unfortunately Auto Fidelity don’t have an installer in Adelaide anymore so we made a weekend of it to Melbourne, based on reviews from this forum and elsewhere.

Completely invisible when the hitch is out. I also didn’t expect the plug to rotate away out of sight when not needed (a pleasant surprise).

I’m only going to have a bicycle rack and small trailer on it, so I can see how some may want to consider something more robust. For our needs, this was the perfect solution.

A few quick images from last night.

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Looks great, thinking about this option. Where in Melbourne did you get it fitted and did the fitter supply the bar or did you order it separately?
Thanks

[oxblood8]

Hi all

Just wondering, does the Allspace and regular Tiguan share the same towbar part number or are they different?

[Hillbilly]

Hi all

Just wondering, does the Allspace and regular Tiguan share the same towbar part number or are they different?

Same bumper and rear end AFAIK Tow capacities can be different though

[doc_777]

An indication might be drawn from Hayman Reese, who only do one bar for Tiguan - no specific design for the different wheelbases.

[oxblood8]

So those of you with the Hayman Reese towbars, I've had a quick read through a few posts and saw some comments about the rear sensors not working correctly. Is that still the case?

[orangegoblin]

For those of you with factory tow bars fitted, do you also have Trailer Assist activated from the factory?

I have a VW tow bar fitted at the factory by the previous owner, but it appears that the TA hasn't been turned on.

[wiredless]

For those of you with factory tow bars fitted, do you also have Trailer Assist activated from the factory?

I have a VW tow bar fitted at the factory by the previous owner, but it appears that the TA hasn't been turned on.

No this feature wasn’t activated for me.



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[Simonr23]

Mine was activated.

[orangegoblin]

Interested to know your settings mate. Do you have an OBD11?

[orangegoblin]

Mine was activated. Interested to know your settings mate. Do you have an OBD11?

[Simonr23]

Just in case I’ve said the wrong thing, Is trailer assist where you use the side mirror controller to change how to auto reverse the trailer?

[orangegoblin]

Just in case I’ve said the wrong thing, Is trailer assist where you use the side mirror controller to change how to auto reverse the trailer?

Yep, that's it exactly mate!

[Simonr23]

I wonder why my dealer did it all correctly and other people haven’t had this done? Thanks have the square, 50mm hitch type towbar- not the swing away variety.

My dealer haven’t been good at most things I’ve used them for, so a surprise.

Here’s the obd11 way.

Select ‘park assist module’- 76
Goto coding
Byte 0, tick bit 3

Select ‘instruments module’
Goto coding
Byte 12, tick bit 5

Select ‘reversing camera module’
Goto coding
Byte 10, tick bit 3

[marcuskmt]

Are the Westfalia towbars still the best towbars for the Tiguan?

I have a new MY20 Highline with R-Line package.

Who installs them in Adelaide?

[Hillbilly]

Are the Westfalia towbars still the best towbars for the Tiguan?

I have a new MY20 Highline with R-Line package.

Who installs them in Adelaide?

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[tek199]

Same bumper and rear end AFAIK Tow capacities can be different though

Just in case someone reads this. Allspace and SWB have different rear bars. The side profile is different for top and middle parts. lower valence is different and even the fake exhaust parts are different. Where the towbar notch has to be cut, the profile of the SWB and Allspace bar is the same. So a same cut has to be made.
SWB factory towbar will fit the Allspace. The base wiring loom connect to control module ok in both cars.

Just a side note the CAN-Bus has to be enabled before the tow control module can be programmed. Reading installation manual for towbar there are two connectors near the steering column in a foam sleeve that need to be joined.

[marcuskmt]

No more Westfalia Towbars in Australia so Westfalia have recommended a Polish brand called Autohak. Similar in design.

Has anyone had experience with this?

[Hillbilly]

Removable Towbars - Detachable Towbars - Invisible Towbars - Fixed Towbars - Australia Tow Bars & Performance store (https://australiatowbars.com.au/detachable-tow-bars-invisible-tow-bars-fixed-tow-bars?cat=114#page=2)


This outfit have them but at present Tiguan ones are on back order due to popularity where from I dont know as Towbars Australia in Caboolture now own the Westfalia website etc as Westfalia went broke in AUS and withdrew.

TBA can get them from overseas but a big wait due to Virus etc

They did say DONT buy the electrically retractable model

He assured me the Autohak were as good as the Westfalias

[Broony]

Just bought Westfalia tow bar with full integrated kit for 2017 tiguan R line, would be great to find anyone else that has installed the wiring kit on this model, will update once installed

[Broony]

No more Westfalia Towbars in Australia so Westfalia have recommended a Polish brand called Autohak. Similar in design.

Has anyone had experience with this?

Wesfalia bars for the Tiguan are instock AustraliaTowbars have them

[Broony]

searched everywhere and still can't find an answer to the CANBUS connection, do we still run the wires to dashboard?


For anyone who has done their own install or with knowledge of the process on the Australian market Mk2/MQB Tiguan.

- Which side of the cargo area does the control module live?
- Is the trailer preparation wiring (from control box to CANbus) already in place from factory?
- Any additional plugs or splicing needed for communication with the CANbus after module plug in and checking '69' in the gateway installation list?
- What revision control module are people using? I have a new revision F module and 13 pin plug combination in the garage that I could use if it's compatible with the new Tiguan.

Thanks in advance for any info.


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[iampivot]

Which connector do you have on your kit? I installed the factory controller, it was prewired for it in my my18 allspace on the left side. It was tricky to get into there though, the seats had to be lifted up. See https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/factory-vs-dealer-fitted-towbar-131089-2.html#post1320891

[Broony]

hi thanks for that, it's the 13 Pin Integrated wiring kit 305408300113, just wondering whether i need to run the canbus wires to the dash or is there a connection in the back?

[iampivot]

A bit hard to find details on this kit.
If you have it already, can you take a closeup photo of the connector on the box, and on the cable that comes with it? I installed the factory gateway/controller/box that i got off a wrecker. It would go in the left side of the trunk in any case, as there's a grommet at that spot to pull the cable through to the towbar. Just get in there and check if there's a cable sitting there ready already. Here's a picture of where i put mine, and what the box / connectors looks like.

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[Broony]

i should hopefully have it today and will upload photos, thanks, i am sure my kit comes with the westfalia controller though

[iampivot]

Yes, was just wondering if the connectors on the controller, or on the cable are the same as those use with the factory kit.

[Broony]

mine has been delayed till tomorrow, looks like i will be DIY as the VW mechanic has let me down, plenty photos tomorrow

[Broony]

Stripped down the left hand rear panel ready for wiring tow bar and found this, along with two connectors, not sure what they are? anyone seen this
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[Broony]

Stripped down the left hand rear panel ready for wiring tow bar and found this, along with two connectors, not sure what they are? anyone seen this<br><img src="https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f238/52319-tow-bar-tiguan-screen-shot-2020-12-03-6-29-39-pm-jpg" attachmentid="52319" alt="" id="vbattach_52319" class="previewthumb"><img src="https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f238/52320-tow-bar-tiguan-screen-shot-2020-12-03-6-29-18-pm-jpg" attachmentid="52320" alt="" id="vbattach_52320" class="previewthumb">

[iampivot]

If you're lucky then your wiring kit matches that cable. not sure what that other box is for. If there's a number on it, then that will identify it. once connected, there's also a small cable under the steering wheel that needs to be connected.

[Broony]

found the box 5q0907376b electronic damping control, just the two plugs now , one looks like canbus wires the other trailer plug wiring maybe?52321

[iampivot]

That's the box I wish my car had. With the additional gear of course.

[iampivot]

Those two cables looks like the ones plugged into my box, as shown in the second picture in the previous page.

[Broony]

The two can bus wires Org/grn org/brn match the two wires in the connected, hopefully saves me running a cable to the dash

[Broony]

Yip no blue connector,just a male / female Canbus black connectors

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[iampivot]

When those two are plugged in, expect to get some errors in your coding. I haven't had time to resolve mine yet.

[Broony]

hi are they supposed to be plugged in?

[iampivot]

Yes otherwise the cable at the back isn't connected to any gateway, or so i'm led to believe.

[Broony]

Thanks, i will check the wiring to make sure it runs to the back, that's good i don't need to run any wires to the front

[tek199]

Yes otherwise the cable at the back isn't connected to any gateway, or so i'm led to believe.

Have you connected the towbar gateway link under the steering wheel?

[iampivot]

yes i've connected them. Have some unresolved errors I haven't time to sort out, due to it.

[Broony]

Finally my towbar turned up, fitted it all today, biggest pain was the bumper securing nuts hidden inside bumper.
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[Broony]

after a drive i've found the Lane guidance / driver assist unavailable, unplugging the red plug on the trailer box, it becomes available again, anyone idea why this happens?

P.S if anyone wants the red wiring loom in the above picture you are welcome to it

Also remember to change 69-Trailer to region to australia - stops LED warning on dash

Managed to get it working missed a bit of code, this did the trick

52411

[Shifter 12"]

Just had a Best Bars tow bar to my R Line Mk11 Tiguan (Wolfsberg) fitted. The bar fitted easily and all of the electrical connections as well. Found the Can Bus connection by removing the very small glove box on the drivers side. They are hidden behind a larger loom of wires and not easy to find. Used OBD11 to tell the system that a tow bar has been fitted. Problem - now I have a fault with the Drivers Assistance which says that the "Local Data Bus Received Malfunction Value". Fault code no U116B00. Using the OBD 11 Pro it tells me the fault has been cleared but it has not. Another fault appears within Module 13, Adaptive Cruise Control - Control Module incorrectly coded, Fault code No U101400. Again OBD11 clears it but it returns. Yet another fault arises from the Engine module - Data error value received - Fault code No U112300. Does anyone have any idea how to clear these faults using an OBD 11??

[Broony]

Which wiring loom did fit, also follow the coding i used above, i can send you mine but i am using VCDS, not sure about OBD11, it doesn't sound like the coding is correct? did you plug the canbus connectors together ?

[vvw747]

Could anyone share a copy of the instructions that come with the OEM bar? Cheers

[iampivot]

Is it this one you're looking for? Hitch Install P1 001 | Brian Wilson | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/167164863@N02/46101857902/in/album-72157704250228985/)

[tek199]

Could anyone share a copy of the instructions that come with the OEM bar? Cheers

5NA092136 hardware Installation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kxYcMWzCwm_25sdE7uQZ9130g2Ds3bI6/view?usp=sharing)

Towbar Installation Instruction for Tiguan 06/2016>> (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K4r8lFmuAbOLIZOfWi-tqs3rfWeyuD9B/view)




There is thread here about fitting the towbar.
https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/factory-vs-dealer-fitted-towbar-131089.html?highlight=tiguan+towbar

and the other one about CANBUS wiring
CANBUS wiring for Tow bar installation - No Power on tow bar socket. (https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/canbus-wiring-tow-bar-installation-no-power-tow-bar-socket-130911.html)

[vvw747]

5NA092136 hardware Installation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kxYcMWzCwm_25sdE7uQZ9130g2Ds3bI6/view?usp=sharing)

Towbar Installation Instruction for Tiguan 06/2016>> (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K4r8lFmuAbOLIZOfWi-tqs3rfWeyuD9B/view)




There is thread here about fitting the towbar.
https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/factory-vs-dealer-fitted-towbar-131089.html?highlight=tiguan+towbar

and the other one about CANBUS wiring
CANBUS wiring for Tow bar installation - No Power on tow bar socket. (https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/canbus-wiring-tow-bar-installation-no-power-tow-bar-socket-130911.html)

You're an absolute legend. Cheers!

[vvw747]

Is it this one you're looking for? Hitch Install P1 001 | Brian Wilson | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/167164863@N02/46101857902/in/album-72157704250228985/)

Thanks. Yep this one and the wiring was provided too. Really appreciate the help.

[LovemyGTI]

Would like to get a towbar installed on MY19 Tiguan Allspace and try out (by hiring) a caravan.

Thinking about the Hayman Reese option because it's a lot cheaper than Westfalia or VW OEM ($1,300 vs $2,200+). Don't think we'd do this more than once or twice a year so not looking to overinvest.

Does anyone have the Hayman Reese towbar on a Mk2 Tiguan?
Could you share your experiences?
Does it require bumper to be cut?
Any photos?
I know it's a simple eletrical connection with no coding on VCDS - what does this mean? Is it just rear parking sensors and camera that will go crazy (which I can turn off).

[Hillbilly]

Would like to get a towbar installed on MY19 Tiguan Allspace and try out (by hiring) a caravan.

Thinking about the Hayman Reese option because it's a lot cheaper than Westfalia or VW OEM ($1,300 vs $2,200+). Don't think we'd do this more than once or twice a year so not looking to overinvest.

Does anyone have the Hayman Reese towbar on a Mk2 Tiguan?
Could you share your experiences?
Does it require bumper to be cut?
Any photos?
I know it's a simple eletrical connection with no coding on VCDS - what does this mean? Is it just rear parking sensors and camera that will go crazy (which I can turn off).

How heavy is the van and what is its towballweight.

Electrical connection is NOT simple and a proper VW tow module is over $600 HR bars look messy and will require bumper to be hacked at. A Westfalia one is the one to get

Look here for a good one VW Tiguan Towbar - Detachable OEM Westfalia - Australia Tow Bars & Performance store (https://australiatowbars.com.au/vw-tiguan-gen2-invisible-detachable-tow-bar-oem-321907600001-westfalia.html#ig_lightbox2)[gal]/13/

[LovemyGTI]

I would be looking to get a caravan within my car's limits <2500kg and <200kg towball.

What I meant was a simple "bypass" electrical rather than an electronic one to avoid the complications of coding, interfering with computer, etc.

I don't believe the bumper needs to be hacked although the square hitch would be visible but is hardly "ugly" (but each to his own): http://www.shop1auto.com.au/Images%20towbars/VW/Tiguan/VW_Tiguan_towbar_3190RW_800pix.jpg

There is a considerable price diff: $1,150 vs $2,000+ and if the only benefit is that it's 1. "invisible" when not in use and 2. the rear sensors don't beep on those once or twice a year trips, I'd be happy with that.

[Hillbilly]

I would be looking to get a caravan within my car's limits <2500kg and <200kg towball.

What I meant was a simple "bypass" electrical rather than an electronic one to avoid the complications of coding, interfering with computer, etc.

I don't believe the bumper needs to be hacked although the square hitch would be visible but is hardly "ugly" (but each to his own): http://www.shop1auto.com.au/Images%20towbars/VW/Tiguan/VW_Tiguan_towbar_3190RW_800pix.jpg

There is a considerable price diff: $1,150 vs $2,000+ and if the only benefit is that it's 1. "invisible" when not in use and 2. the rear sensors don't beep on those once or twice a year trips, I'd be happy with that.

Just check your towball limits in your manual as they dont stay at a constant 200kg on all models and all loadings

[bungfritz]

Hey all, I've tried scouring the search but couldn't find the answer, but can someone confirm that the dealer fitted VW towbar hitch is 50mm and not the smaller 40mm size fitted to some other cars?

Looking to get one and wanted to make sure I'll fit our bike carrier.