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tigger73
28-01-2017, 07:11 AM
There's been a few rumours, spy shots plus various articles, so thought it was time to put all in the one spot.

Here's the latest article: Volkswagen Australia wants other hot Tiguans (http://www.caradvice.com.au/516601/volkswagen-australia-wants-other-hot-tiguans-theres-a-500nm-diesel-out-there/)

Also youtube clip with testing at Nurburgring:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWIuotCse3s

equiped
28-01-2017, 09:29 AM
I really hope they release a proper R and the BiTdi diesel here

Chocolate_Bear
28-01-2017, 10:10 AM
Just wondering .... Anyone have feedback or a video of what the 162tsi rline exhaust sounds like?


Tiguan 162tsi rline (May 2017) - NSW, Northern Beaches

tigger73
28-01-2017, 10:17 AM
I really hope they release a proper R and the BiTdi diesel here

I think the R is a better chance than the BiTDI as at least the R engine is designed for hot weather climates like Aus. The BiTDI is restricted to cool weather climates only.


Just wondering .... Anyone have feedback or a video of what the 162tsi rline exhaust sounds like?

Pretty sure the exhaust on the 162 R-line is exactly same as Highline (no spec changes) and will be pretty quiet - no DSG pops. You'll have to get an aftermarket/custom cat-back exhaust to get any noise.

TungstenR
28-01-2017, 04:13 PM
Chocolate_Bear (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/members/chocolate_bear/)

Just wondering .... Anyone have feedback or a video of what the 162tsi rline exhaust sounds like?


Tiguan 162tsi rline (May 2017) - NSW, Northern Beaches





Disappointing, way too silent, even in Sports mode.

TungstenR
28-01-2017, 04:14 PM
In German car forums it is suggested that the video refers to a tuner, not to a VW (factory) car.

VWVY
29-01-2017, 01:49 AM
Here's the latest article: Volkswagen Australia wants other hot Tiguans (http://www.caradvice.com.au/516601/volkswagen-australia-wants-other-hot-tiguans-theres-a-500nm-diesel-out-there/)


interesting to read what he said april last year
Volkswagen Tiguan R hot SUV not happening (http://www.caradvice.com.au/432125/volkswagen-tiguan-r-hot-suv-not-happening/)

TungstenR
29-01-2017, 06:44 AM
interesting to read what he said april last year
Volkswagen Tiguan R hot SUV not happening (http://www.caradvice.com.au/432125/volkswagen-tiguan-r-hot-suv-not-happening/)

Yup, they don't want VW to eat too much into the more profitable (profit margins) AUDI clientele...

tigger73
29-01-2017, 07:14 AM
Yup, they don't want VW to eat too much into the more profitable (profit margins) AUDI clientele...

Actually I wouldn't see a Tiguan R taking away Audi customers. It would be a model without an equal and this is something difficult for the marketing boffins at VW to comprehend. They don't know the size of the (potential) market so it makes it a riskier development.

Actually I see it working in Australia but maybe not so much in markets overseas. Australia is a bit of a strange market in that sales are skewed in favour of performance models. So the case for a Tiguan R is stronger here than in other markets.... but the likelihood that they would develop a Tiguan R just for Australia is pretty slim.

Pre-dieselgate I think this might have flown but now I'm not so sure that the return on the R&D spend is such a good case. Love to be proven wrong.

TheTig
02-06-2017, 04:01 PM
More talk of a Tiguan R in the works - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52y22M8ZitE

Gladbach
02-06-2017, 07:35 PM
A Tiguan R makes a lot of sense, and I think it would be smart to develop one. Personally I hope they don't as it would devalue the R-Line somewhat ;-)

It would definitely work in Australia, if you offered an SUV with performance somewhere between the Tiguan 162TSI and an SQ5 then you'd be on a winner. It would provide an option for those who can't afford an Audi performance model but want a decent performance focused practical car. I doubt it would bite into Audi's sales. Most people buying Audis at that end of the spectrum have a brand image in mind, as well as a justification to spend the money (salary package/leasing etc.)

I think it would work in Germany too, there are a lot of SQx and RSQx (x=3,5,7) around, in fact the performance models would make up a large percentage of the total SUVs on the road as Germany traditionally don't have that many SUVs.

I think the R-Line pack on the Tiguan has served as a good experiment for VW, and the fact that there was a large global demand for the R-Line pack would suggest to VW that there's enough demand for a sporty SUV in that part of the market.

ewok666
07-06-2017, 04:32 PM
Don't think the R is going to happen any time soon unfortunately. Why not give it an APR tune and, if you really want, the R turbo to bring it to the same output as a tuned R? With a standard stage 1 software tune it will be faster than a stock Golf R anyway.

Delewin
08-06-2017, 01:08 PM
I agree with ewok666, Why spend $60K to $70K in the future when you spend around $2K to $3K and have it now.

tigger73
08-06-2017, 02:00 PM
I agree with ewok666, Why spend $60K to $70K in the future when you spend around $2K to $3K and have it now.

Or in 12 months if you're going R-line...

Bang
19-08-2017, 02:04 PM
I just read on car sales news and reviews that the Tiguan R is all but confirmed for 2019. Perfect timing as I will be turning over my R line by then. Fingers crossed

Eyes24
19-08-2017, 06:30 PM
https://www.motoring.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-r-coming-108531/


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Eyes24
19-08-2017, 06:30 PM
Also the T-Roc

https://www.motoring.com.au/volkswagen-renders-its-t-roc-baby-suv-108475/


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smarty
23-08-2017, 05:25 PM
Not sure if posted before but come accross this

Hot Volkswagen Tiguan R tests with Audi-derived five-cylinder engine | Autocar (https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/hot-volkswagen-tiguan-r-tests-audi-derived-five-cylinder-engine)

tigger73
23-08-2017, 08:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9H429c-QTY

veew
23-08-2017, 10:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9H429c-QTY
OMG that sounds ridiculously good!
Sounds like it understeers alot. Looks like the Haldex won't be more rear biased.

Jimi
23-08-2017, 10:58 PM
OMG that sounds ridiculously good!
Sounds like it understeers alot. Looks like the Haldex won't be more rear biased.

They really need to sort that out on all their models. At least make it more proactive like Audi's Quattro Ultra if they really must save 0.1L/100km

Rooboy
24-08-2017, 08:46 AM
Colour me skeptical but does it make sense to run the Audi 5 pot in a VW R? It would make more sense to me to use the same engine as the Golf R and keep the brand separation, unless they're looking to spread out development costs. Another thing that made me skeptical is that there is no camo on a future product and has me wondering if this is actually a development mule for the RS variant of the new gen Audi Q3 which is due for release next year. Either way it will be a great addition.

tigger73
24-08-2017, 12:24 PM
Yeah development mule for the RSQ3 makes more sense. But there's been growing speculation about an R series Tiguan which the factory is saying is still a possibility.


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refstar
24-08-2017, 12:37 PM
Want :) <3

Tigger162
25-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Hot Volkswagen Tiguan R tests with Audi-derived five-cylinder engine | Autocar (https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-tiguan-r-tests-audi-derived-five-cylinder-engine)

jets
27-08-2017, 08:04 PM
https://www.carshowroom.com.au/news/vw-tiguan-r-prototype-seen-using-five-cylinder-turbo/?utm_source=CSR+Newsletter&utm_campaign=d7ad927a8e-CSR+Weekly+Wrap+-+August+25th+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f85b6ed6b3-d7ad927a8e-57586609

S_TIG
31-08-2017, 04:44 PM
https://youtu.be/P4jmp86Rofg

Sparx1981
03-09-2017, 07:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9H429c-QTY&feature=youtu.be

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NZ_GolfR
05-09-2017, 06:25 PM
Funny how the original black one spotted earlier in the year has quad pipes while this newer blue one has twin oval pipes.

hamisticle
24-10-2017, 12:28 AM
Does anyone know what the factory privacy glass tint percentages are for Tiguan 162TSI? Someone posted the specs from VWA bit I can't find it!


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MikeyT
25-10-2017, 06:34 AM
Does anyone know what the factory privacy glass tint percentages are for Tiguan 162TSI? Someone posted the specs from VWA bit I can't find it!


Hi Hami, here is the link I posted some time back #2596 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/i-have-ordered-received-my-new-tiguan-114104-post1238102.html#post1238102)

hamisticle
25-10-2017, 08:08 AM
Thanks Mikey, that's what I was trying to find! Cheers


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Rooboy
23-02-2018, 10:37 AM
Well SEAT beat them to the R punch - 221kw Cupra version of the Ateca

Cupra: Seat sub-brand launches hot Ateca, Leon TCR (http://www.caradvice.com.au/624723/cupra-launches-ateca-leon-tcr/)

Dutch77
23-02-2018, 12:17 PM
Well SEAT beat them to the R punch - 221kw Cupra version of the Ateca

Cupra: Seat sub-brand launches hot Ateca, Leon TCR (http://www.caradvice.com.au/624723/cupra-launches-ateca-leon-tcr/)

..and substantially better looking to boot - particularly the execution of the rear, pun not really intended.

Rocket36
26-02-2018, 03:07 PM
But they need to do the LWB version too. The Tiguan is useless to anyone who carries more than a pair of shoes in the boot unless it's in LWB form. There's just not enough room in the standard one. Yes I'm exaggerating a bit, but still, we'd have a Tiguan instead of a Passat if the Tiguan had more space.

Grugly
26-02-2018, 03:55 PM
But they need to do the LWB version too. The Tiguan is useless to anyone who carries more than a pair of shoes in the boot unless it's in LWB form. There's just not enough room in the standard one. Yes I'm exaggerating a bit, but still, we'd have a Tiguan instead of a Passat if the Tiguan had more space.

Are you talking about gen 1 or gen 2 as the boot space seems pretty big to me in the gen 2

Jimi
27-02-2018, 03:35 PM
Are you talking about gen 1 or gen 2 as the boot space seems pretty big to me in the gen 2

Even compared to Gen 2 the Passat is quite a bit larger. The kicker for me is the length. The Passat is around 190cm from the rear of the boot to the back of the front seat. Tiguan is 160-something. This means I can load skis or a surfboard (usually around 180cm) in a Passat down the centre of the 40:20:40 split rear seats, have two rear passengers and a comfortable driving position. I can then lock the gear securely in the car. This isn’t possible in the Tiguan (requires a diagonal loading or roof racks etc). Even the current Touareg has a shorter load area than the Passat. The Tiguan also has that annoying hard load cover like my golf. The Passat however lacks the 7sp wet DSG and a few other things I’d like to see. Each to their own. I’m going to wait and see if I can afford the new Touareg which may solve for everything.

Rocket36
28-02-2018, 07:16 AM
I looked at the MY18 Tiguan. There's not enough room for just our great dane in the back! In the Passat, I can put the great dane and our pram in the boot. This means we have the baby seat, enough room for another adult and space between them on the middle seat, or just a clear back seat other than the baby seat.

Another thing when you've got length - leg room! I'm 6'2" and didn't want to be stuck with another Commodore wagon just because it's one of the few cars with enough leg room. Adjusting the seat for me driving is my test. I then get in the back seat behind the driver. Not a chance in the Tiguan. Fine in the Passat wagon.

I also personally find the seating position in a car driver's seat, rather than an SUV or 4WD driver's seat far more comfortable. Especially on the long drives.


I’m going to wait and see if I can afford the new Touareg which may solve for everything.

It will be our 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee replacement. :) If it's as good as or better than the Volvo XC90 that is.

Rooboy
28-02-2018, 07:38 AM
:confused: how did a Tiguan R discussion go so far off topic...

Rocket36
28-02-2018, 07:49 AM
This is discussion about how if there is a Tiguan R, it better be on the LWB platform so it's actually a properly usable SUV in terms of cargo space.

Rooboy
28-02-2018, 08:11 AM
if you had have said "better on a long wheelbase to aid handling" I might have believed you...but cargo space is irrelevant for an R performance variant.

Rocket36
28-02-2018, 12:17 PM
if you had have said "better on a long wheelbase to aid handling" I might have believed you...but cargo space is irrelevant for an R performance variant.

In your opinion. Not to me. It's exceptionally relevant to ANY vehicle I buy, so if that happens to be a R-Line Tiguan, then it needs more cargo space than a standard Tiguan!

spacemannz
28-02-2018, 01:38 PM
In your opinion. Not to me. It's exceptionally relevant to ANY vehicle I buy, so if that happens to be a R-Line Tiguan, then it needs more cargo space than a standard Tiguan!

Don’t forget to strap the Great Dane down before you take off in the LWB R :D

Rocket36
28-02-2018, 01:52 PM
lol! Compared with the TD V6 in the Jeep, there won't be a problem with ANY VW SUV. Well at least until we replace the Jeep with the new Toureg. ;-)

TroyBoy71
28-02-2018, 06:58 PM
Pretty sure the exhaust on the 162 R-line is exactly same as Highline (no spec changes) and will be pretty quiet - no DSG pops. You'll have to get an aftermarket/custom cat-back exhaust to get any noise.

Yup - ours is disappointingly subtle! :D

TroyBoy71
28-02-2018, 07:07 PM
Touareg is apparently now early 2019? There's also rumours of a 27" (not a typo!) screen

Rocket36
01-03-2018, 09:01 AM
Touareg is apparently now early 2019? There's also rumours of a 27" (not a typo!) screen

Yup...

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/f59a7291ajpgitok7gKjcxdH-1.jpg

TheReturnofVW
20-05-2018, 09:01 PM
Hey All, I’m currently in the market for a new car and am heavily considering the Tiguan 162tsi with Rline. I’m getting out of an S3 and am wondering if it’s worthwhile waiting to see if a Tiguan R actually becomes a reality. Anyone have any insights, thoughts or predictions if it will happen and if so when ?

Thanks!

tigger73
20-05-2018, 09:24 PM
I don't think there's anything coming this way any time soon. Unfortunately we missed out on the 176kW bi-turbo diesel that is available in Europe as this is the top of the line model for most other markets.

Reality is VW isn't going to develop an R model just for Australia as the numbers just wouldn't stack up.

TheReturnofVW
21-05-2018, 08:40 PM
Yep make sense, I wouldn’t imagine they would develop it for the aus market but surely there would be demand for high performance petrol in Europe and a few other spots that wont get the BiTurbo diesel. They have the block ready to go from the Golf R.. anyway got to decide if the 162 has enough go to keep me interested!

tigger73
21-05-2018, 09:43 PM
Just retune the 162 to 235... ;)


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