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tigger73
03-01-2017, 07:02 PM
Links and Index of VCDS Tweaks

veew
11-01-2017, 03:33 PM
Hi guys,

Thought I'd start a thread on any VCDS tweaks people have had success with. I assume most of the ones that work for the Mk7 Golf would also work but will be great to know which ones actually do work! Any screenshots, pictures, videos associated with the tweaks would be great! I'll let you guys know which ones work when I get my car and get around to borrowing/buying a cable!

These are the ones I'm keen to do on my Tiguan when it arrives:
1) Deactivation of auto stop/start
2) Memory retention of seat heater setting
3) Deactivation of seat belt reminder
4) Activation of Volkswagen Traffic Message Channel
5) Driving school mode
6) Air-conditioning recirculation memory setting

BTW, courtesy of DV52, here is the Mk7 Golf VCDS reference thread: MkVII VCDS Tweak - Reference thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mkvii-vcds-tweak-reference-thread-98034.html)
He has uploaded a full BCM database, thanks to VWVY for providing his car: Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks - Page 8 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-8.html#post1221831)

CONFIRMED working VCDS tweaks:
Activation of Volkswagen Traffic Message Channel: Mk7 Golf TSI & TDI - Observations and Questions - Page 56 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-tsi-tdi-observations-questions-84967-56.html#post1038915)
Deactivation of auto stop/start (courtesy DV52 and VYWY - post #94, exactly the same way as Mk Golf 7)

CONFIRMED working OBD11 tweaks:
Some cosmetic changes to AID and central MFD(courtesy NZ_GolfR): Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks - Page 26 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-26.html#post1241385) & Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks - Page 10 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-10.html#post1222451) & Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-post1239577.html#post1239577)

More tweaks: LED lights in door mirrors, DRL adjustments, refuel quanity, fan speed indicator when in auto, changing comfort blink amount, guage sweep, beep when locking/unlocking car (cheers bestyjny): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-10.html#post1222463

Screen nag deactivation (cheers VWVY): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-10.html#post1223437

Active Lane Guidance intervention settings (cheers Fried_noodles)http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/guide-enable-eu-specific-features-au-spec-tiguans-117741-10.html#post1224141

Light Assist (NZ_GolfR): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/guide-enable-eu-specific-features-au-spec-tiguans-117741-14.html#post1226372

TMC, DRL option in Head Unit, Auto window closing, Dynamic Road Sign display(Cheers hoola): A guide to enable EU specific features for AU Spec Tiguans (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/guide-enable-eu-specific-features-au-spec-tiguans-117741-post1226308.html#post1226308)

Easy Entry/Easy Exit seat function (NZ_GolfR): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-18.html#post1239603

360* Camera for Discover Media infotainment systems (Hugo_nz): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-17.html#post1239530

Always on rear tail light DRLs (NZ_GolfR): Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-post1238415.html#post1238415)

Air-conditioning recirculation memory setting: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-28.html#post1242006

3rd rear brake light activation, Door mirror LED on with folding of mirrors, cornering fog light speed sensitivity: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-31.html#post1243852

Haldex AWD system adjustment: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-33.html#post1249239

Key Fob works when outside the car even whilst engine running (allows you to get the car running to precondition the interior and walk away with a locked vehicle): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-43.html#post1256693

Driving School Mode: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-46.html#post1263040

Deactivate the Prevention of cars overtaking on the Right (Tigger73): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-56.html#post1281355

- This tweak is helpful on the freeway when you are not in the right lane and approach a slower car driving in the right lane.
Usually the car slows to the other cars speed (annoying if the car in the right lane travelling at 100km/hr in a 110km/hr zone) and does not proceed past them.
Deactivating this setting allows you to continue at your predetermined cruise control speed and pass the car in the right hand lane.

Reduce throttle tip-in delay and improve responsiveness:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-74.html#post1290159

Hillbilly's list of things tweaks that have worked: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XT_OrWb9EIOmnXaeRTA19uLTPRJFZyeG/view
Additional things in that list include:
- Puddles in mirrors when reversing
- Enable change navigation whilst car is moving
- Adjust speed in dash to be correct for cars with 20" wheels
- Dynamic Light Assist (courtesy of Phonebooth) - I have tried this and unfortunately does not work for me

AutoInstruct's OBD11/VCDS tweaks:
https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/manufacturer/volkswagen/mk2-tiguan/mk2-tiguan-obdeleven-vcds-tweaks/
https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/manufacturer/volkswagen/mk7-golf/mk7-golf-obdeleven-vcds-tweaks/
Stemei.de coding: https://www.stemei.de/pages/coding/vw-tiguan-ii-ad.php
Record of NZ_GolfR's tweaks:
https://oncall-my.sharepoint.com/personal/aaron_oncall_co_nz/Documents/Forms/All.aspx?FolderCTID=0x0120006683553B5EE5DF40A38E5A 7F5BE5E0A7&id=%2Fpersonal%2Faaron_oncall_co_nz%2FDocuments%2F Tiguan%2F2017%20Tiguan%20OBDeleven%20Coding%20Chan ges%2F2017%20Tiguan%20OBDeleven%20Coding%20Changes %2Epdf&parent=%2Fpersonal%2Faaron_oncall_co_nz%2FDocument s%2FTiguan%2F2017%20Tiguan%20OBDeleven%20Coding%20 Changes

Gladbach
11-01-2017, 03:51 PM
Thanks veew. Really keen to know if number 4 works!

Delewin
11-01-2017, 03:57 PM
Agreed please fully document these and more.

An aside question. Would any of these changes have a negative impact on our VW warrantee?

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tigger73
11-01-2017, 06:41 PM
An aside question. Would any of these changes have a negative impact on our VW warrantee?

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It's just selecting an option that is already available in their software so there should be no issues with warranty. You can get the dealer to set these for you too if you ask nicely (and you know the option that you want enabled/disabled).

Delewin
11-01-2017, 08:46 PM
Thank you tigger73 for the update.

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veew
11-01-2017, 08:47 PM
You can get the dealer to set these for you too if you ask nicely (and you know the option that you want enabled/disabled).

I've asked the dealer once to do a few tweaks, they said their systems don't have the ability or access to these specific options.

REXman
12-01-2017, 10:55 AM
Hi guys,

Thought I'd start a thread on any VCDS tweaks people have had success with. I assume most of the ones that work for the Mk7 Golf would also work but will be great to know which ones actually do work! Any screenshots, pictures, videos associated with the tweaks would be great! I'll let you guys know which ones work when I get my car and get around to borrowing/buying a cable!

These are the ones I'm keen to do on my Tiguan when it arrives:
1) Deactivation of auto stop/start
2) Memory retention of seat heater setting
3) Deactivation of seat belt reminder
4) Activation of Volkswagen Traffic Message Channel
5) Driving school mode
6) Air circulation setting memory

BTW, courtesy of DV52, here is the Mk7 Golf VCDS reference thread: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mkvii-vcds-tweak-reference-thread-98034.html

Don't really care about 6, but pretty much keen on the rest of these. Stop start is definitely high on the list.


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DV52
12-01-2017, 02:02 PM
Hi boys (and girls?). I don't normally post on the Tiggy thread (I'm mostly on the Golf mk7 forum), but as you will be aware, the new Tiggy and the mk7 share the same MQB build platform. This suggests that VCDS tweaks for the mk7 might be applicable to the new Tiggy (perhaps?)

So, on this assumption, there are at least 3 x different ways of neutralising SS on a mk7 (that I'm aware-of - there could be more)


Coding change to the Byte3, Bit 2-3 on the CAN Gateway module @ address hex19 - The factory value for Bits 2-3 are hex04 for SS active (i.e. Bit 2=1, Bit 3=0). To disable SS, change this to hex08 (i.e. Bit 2=0 ,Bit 3=1)
The "Temperature method"
The "Voltage method"


Because not much is known about the new Tiggy's CAN network, I wouldn't suggest tinkering with the CAN Gateway code-string just yet - so option I is probably not viable at this time.

But Options II and III are low risk because they just involve changes to Adaptation channels - which can be simply reversed if needed.

So - here's the question: has any owner of the new Tiggy made an adaptation channel map of the control modules in their car and in particular can anyone post-up the admap for the CAN Gateway?This will show us what channel identifiers are in the module.

Don

PS: If you haven't made a full database of you car, then I seriously suggest that you do so. One of the distinctive features of MQB platform vehicles is their reliance on adaptation channels. Here's a sobering statistic - my mk7 has in excess of 5,500 adaption channels in its CAN network and just under 40% of these are in the BCM. And my car has only 14 x control modules - so it's not a highly optioned vehicle. An accurate database of adaptation channel settings (in the car's virgin state- before any changes are made) can be very valuable when tweaks go "pear-shape". Make a full set of admaps, you won't regret it!!!!

Regdop
12-01-2017, 03:15 PM
Hi boys (and girls?). I don't normally post on the Tiggy thread (I'm mostly on the Golf mk7 forum), but as you will be aware, the new Tiggy and the mk7 share the same MQB build platform. This suggests that VCDS tweaks for the mk7 might be applicable to the new Tiggy (perhaps?)

So, on this assumption, there are at least 3 x different ways of neutralising SS on a mk7 (that I'm aware-of - there could be more)


Coding change to the Byte3, Bit 2-3 on the CAN Gateway module @ address hex19 - The factory value for Bits 2-3 are hex04 for SS active (i.e. Bit 2=1, Bit 3=0). To disable SS, change this to hex08 (i.e. Bit 2=0 ,Bit 3=1)
The "Temperature method"
The "Voltage method"


Because not much is known about the new Tiggy's CAN network, I wouldn't suggest tinkering with the CAN Gateway code-string just yet - so option I is probably not viable at this time.

But Options II and III are low risk because they just involve changes to Adaptation channels - which can be simply reversed if needed.

So - here's the question: has any owner of the new Tiggy made an adaptation channel map of the control modules in their car and in particular can anyone post-up the admap for the CAN Gateway?This will show us what channel identifiers are in the module.

Don

PS: If you haven't made a full database of you car, then I seriously suggest that you do so. One of the distinctive features of MQB platform vehicles is their reliance on adaptation channels. Here's a sobering statistic - my mk7 has in excess of 5,500 adaption channels in its CAN network and just under 40% of these are in the BCM. And my car has only 14 x control modules - so it's not a highly optioned vehicle. An accurate database of adaptation channel settings (in the car's virgin state- before any changes are made) can be very valuable when tweaks go "pear-shape". Make a full set of admaps, you won't regret it!!!!


Can I have that again in English??? Shoot that all seems very complicated!

Delewin
12-01-2017, 04:37 PM
Hi DV52

One question. How do you obtain a full map of the CANBUS?

Is it a simple case of plugging in an ODB interface and then connecting that to your laptop? If so what software are you using to read the ODB codes?

Unfortunately my Tiguan is not expected until mid May 2017 'crying'

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DV52
13-01-2017, 11:21 AM
Can I have that again in English??? Shoot that all seems very complicated!


Hi DV52

One question. How do you obtain a full map of the CANBUS?

Is it a simple case of plugging in an ODB interface and then connecting that to your laptop? If so what software are you using to read the ODB codes?

Unfortunately my Tiguan is not expected until mid May 2017 'crying'

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Regdop/Delewin: LOL - yes I agree lots of non English terms used - but I assumed that since this was a thread about VCDS, there was an understanding of VCDS terms among its readers/posters- my apology for the oversight!

So, first thing to say is that anyone who has purchased a fake VCDS cable should be ashamed of themselves for condoning and for contributing to IP theft! If you do own one of these fake cables, I'd like you to use it your new Tiggy, for no other reason than you deserve all that you get when you need to take the car back to VW to have it fixed!!

With that gripe said, I have written a badly worded paper on how to create a database of the CAN network which you can download below. The document was written specifically for a Golf mk7, but it should equally apply to the new Tiggy.

Don

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3n45u3lwbu9d4hy/Adaptation%20database.pdf?dl=0

Delewin
13-01-2017, 12:54 PM
Hi Don
Thank you very much for both documents. I have had a very quick look at each and your guide is well written and easy to follow.

When I get my Tiguan I will be purchasing the Ross-Tech VCDS enthusiast wifi system including their software.

That way I have only one place to go if I have a problem. [emoji1]

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Regdop
13-01-2017, 02:19 PM
Regdop/Delewin: LOL - yes I agree lots of non English terms used - but I assumed that since this was a thread about VCDS, there was an understanding of VCDS terms among its readers/posters- my apology for the oversight!

So, first thing to say is that anyone who has purchased a fake VCDS cable should be ashamed of themselves for condoning and for contributing to IP theft! If you do own one of these fake cables, I'd like you to use it your new Tiggy, for no other reason than you deserve all that you get when you need to take the car back to VW to have it fixed!!

With that gripe said, I have written a badly worded paper on how to create a database of the CAN network which you can download below. The document was written specifically for a Golf mk7, but it should equally apply to the new Tiggy.

Don

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3n45u3lwbu9d4hy/Adaptation%20database.pdf?dl=0

Thanks Don, all that Tech talk is beyond my comprehension, but I have a real admiration for you guys that do it...props to you. That said when the time is right I hope I can find someone here in Brisbane to do it for me with the appropriate compensation
Cheers
Gary

DV52
13-01-2017, 03:58 PM
Hi Don
Thank you very much for both documents. I have had a very quick look at each and your guide is well written and easy to follow.

When I get my Tiguan I will be purchasing the Ross-Tech VCDS enthusiast wifi system including their software.

That way I have only one place to go if I have a problem. [emoji1]

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Both documents?

Delewin
13-01-2017, 04:26 PM
Sorry Don. Yes I also looked at the excel workbook containing all the tabs. I think I will need a English German dictionary for some of the terms that are not intuitive.

This will be the first time I will be looking at this level of technology. My current car is 14 years old. [emoji33]

I have a good IT and automotive background. I should be able to work it through.

I'm actually quite excited at the prospect of seeing just how much I can personalize my car's electronics.

Thank you again for this info.

David

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veew
20-01-2017, 07:07 AM
Shanelord has confirmed VCDS tweak for Traffic Programming works: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/my-tiguan-has-arrived-my-experience-so-far-116411-11.html#post1214582

TP VCDS link (also added to OP): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-tsi-tdi-observations-questions-84967-56.html#post1038915

shanelord
20-01-2017, 07:19 AM
Shanelord has confirmed VCDS tweak for Traffic Programming works: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/my-tiguan-has-arrived-my-experience-so-far-116411-11.html#post1214582

TP VCDS link (also added to OP): http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-tsi-tdi-observations-questions-84967-56.html#post1038915

Yep indeed. Mine was set to default of 65535 which is "off".

Changing to 1024 sets it to "SUNA On"

Traffic rolling in perfectly now (took about 15mins).

Thanks,
Shane.


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NjB
20-01-2017, 11:48 AM
Forgive my ignorance but why would such a thing be turned off in the first place? Is it a licensing issue for VW?


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shanelord
20-01-2017, 12:04 PM
Forgive my ignorance but why would such a thing be turned off in the first place? Is it a licensing issue for VW?


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I'm not 100% sure. Could be licensing, or it could just be poor delivery documentation and not coded correctly or something completely different.

It works when coded to 1024 though :)

Shane.


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Flipper Dog
20-01-2017, 12:52 PM
Forgive my ignorance but why would such a thing be turned off in the first place? Is it a licensing issue for VW?

Yes. VW Australia has not purchased the license from SUNA to allow activation of TMC.

veew
21-01-2017, 07:25 AM
Yes. VW Australia has not purchased the license from SUNA to allow activation of TMC.

Yep, exactly that ^^^

IsDon
21-01-2017, 11:37 AM
Yes. VW Australia has not purchased the license from SUNA to allow activation of TMC.

Actually, I'm not sure you're correct there.

Audi has been licensed to use SUNA for a couple of years. Despite that, Audis still have to be manually activated via VCDS to allow traffic to be displayed. I was involved in the voyage of discovery that determined what needed to be done to activate it. A lot of very smart people did a lot of work to get it up and running.

While I'm not certain that the licence to use SUNA extends to all VAG brands, the same activation protocol exists with today's Discover Pro system whether fitted to Audi, VW or Skoda. SUNA clearly doesn't care, and they have no way of knowing what vehicles are connected as it's a very basic FM radio based data stream which anyone can tune into provided you can decode it. It's not Google Maps traffic, but it's better than nothing.

I think it's just laziness and customer contempt on behalf of VW and the other VAG brands that this isn't activated by default from the factory.

What needs to happen though, is for VAG to catch up with Japanese and Korean brands which offer data based traffic information which is far more accurate than the SUNA FM based traffic we now have. This data is available now, in Australia, from several providers. SUNA provides this data (along with its more basic FM traffic feed), as does TomTom and, if I recall correctly, Inrix, which is the provider of traffic data for Google Maps. They also provide data on weather, news, parking spots, petrol prices, you name it. The data is there and available, just needs the appropriate agreements in place.

DV52
30-01-2017, 09:28 AM
Forgive my ignorance but why would such a thing be turned off in the first place? Is it a licensing issue for VW?


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NjB: This same question was asked when I was first developing the instructions for this tweak. I'm not sure about the specific case of the new Tiggy, but it was also touted for the Golf mk7 that licensing provisions were not in place for this model and that this was the reason for the omission. However, as we discovered to our delight, it was simply just not activated by VW Australia!

As OP has already said, TMC is not able to detect the type of vehicle that is receiving the signal - it's simply a broadcast service that can be picked-up by any suitable receiver and IMO, all MIB11 units have this capability. I have recently received an adaptation channel map for the 5F module from the new Tiggy (it's from an NAR model) and it proves that the requisite channel for TMC is present in the MIB unit. The admap for the new Tiggy is also remarkably similar to the more established Golf mk7 - so the incestuous heritage of both these models is clearly evident!

As to why TMC is not factory activated in the Tiggy (like it wasn't/isn't still activated in most Golf Mk7s), I don't personally hold to the theory that "it's just laziness and customer contempt on behalf of VW" (sorry IsDon) - although I do believe that VW Australia is to blame. Notwithstanding that I share IsDon's implied opinion regarding VW's appalling treatment of its clientele in Australia, I do believe that their sole motivation is shareholder profit - which often appears to those seeking redress from the inappropriately named Customer (don't) Care representatives to be "laziness and customer contempt"

My personal view (unproven and totally speculative), is that the omission is a deliberate marketing strategy by VW Australia - Clearly MQB vehicles appear to have TMC capabilities because of the common MIB platform, I suspect that VW Australia have attempted to create product differentiation with their Aussie vehicles. So, more prestigious models (Audi?) might get this facility, whereas lower class vehicles (defined by the advertised price scale) do not.

Of course OBD devices like VCDS/VCP/OBDeleven can circumvent this, but the impact on the strategy as a whole is not large! This deliberate strategy might also explain why dealers (who are really just VW Australia agents) are reticent to make the change when requested by clients!

Don

JB286
03-02-2017, 10:31 AM
Hi all,

Could the opening of all windows (and/or the sunroof) from the key fob (if it doesn't do this already) and association of the set Virtual Cockpit layout to a driver setup or seat position following be made via VCDS tweaks?

I am in Melbourne, how would one get these changes made, as well as some of the others listed and what is an approximate cost?

Cheers!

IsDon
03-02-2017, 11:21 AM
Hi all,

Could the opening of all windows (and/or the sunroof) from the key fob (if it doesn't do this already) and association of the set Virtual Cockpit layout to a driver setup or seat position following be made via VCDS tweaks?

I am in Melbourne, how would one get these changes made, as well as some of the others listed and what is an approximate cost?

Cheers!

Certainly on my A6 any open windows and sunroof can be closed by holding down the lock button on the key fob. I'm pretty sure that's standard operation. If it's not it is a very straightforward VCDS code. In fact you can code it to work in conjunction with the rain sensor as well. The rain sensor is used to turn the wipers on an off. It can be also utilised to automagically wind up the windows and close the sunroof if you've inadvertently left them open and it starts raining.

I'm not familiar with the virtual cockpit, and whether or not it can be tied to the individual key like the seats and mirrors. It seems logical, but will require some experimentation.

I do this coding for anyone that asks nicely, and don't charge for it. I'm in Sydney so that won't help you unfortunately. Universal currency (beer) is offered and that's a nice gesture, but not expected. I work on the premise of what goes around comes around. I'm sure most guys on here think the same. I'm sure you'll find someone in Melbourne more that happy to help. It's nice to use the excuse of some coding to meet some great people and their machinery from this forum and OzAudi.

Gladbach
03-02-2017, 02:29 PM
I do this coding for anyone that asks nicely, and don't charge for it. I'm in Sydney so that won't help you unfortunately. Universal currency (beer) is offered and that's a nice gesture, but not expected. I work on the premise of what goes around comes around. I'm sure most guys on here think the same. I'm sure you'll find someone in Melbourne more that happy to help. It's nice to use the excuse of some coding to meet some great people and their machinery from this forum and OzAudi.

IsDon, I'll be asking very nicely when I get my Tiguan :) I'm in Sydney and can provide some nice quality beer!

IsDon
03-02-2017, 02:30 PM
It's a date [emoji173]


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TIG162R
08-02-2017, 09:39 AM
It's a date [emoji173]


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I get mine in May....Can I make it a 3some, pretty please LOL

IsDon
08-02-2017, 03:44 PM
I get mine in May....Can I make it a 3some, pretty please LOL

Ménage à trois.

Certainly. Any more?

We could start a swingers club.

Tiguan162rline
09-02-2017, 05:56 AM
Swingers club it is! I receive mine at the beginning of March

Delewin
09-02-2017, 08:44 AM
I would like to join in but I will not be picking my car up before the end of April.

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IsDon
09-02-2017, 08:56 AM
I would like to join in but I will not be picking my car up before the end of April.

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That's ok mate. We won't have ours until late May. Open invitation.

JB286
09-02-2017, 09:22 AM
Certainly on my A6 any open windows and sunroof can be closed by holding down the lock button on the key fob. I'm pretty sure that's standard operation. If it's not it is a very straightforward VCDS code. In fact you can code it to work in conjunction with the rain sensor as well. The rain sensor is used to turn the wipers on an off. It can be also utilised to automagically wind up the windows and close the sunroof if you've inadvertently left them open and it starts raining.

I'm not familiar with the virtual cockpit, and whether or not it can be tied to the individual key like the seats and mirrors. It seems logical, but will require some experimentation.

I do this coding for anyone that asks nicely, and don't charge for it. I'm in Sydney so that won't help you unfortunately. Universal currency (beer) is offered and that's a nice gesture, but not expected. I work on the premise of what goes around comes around. I'm sure most guys on here think the same. I'm sure you'll find someone in Melbourne more that happy to help. It's nice to use the excuse of some coding to meet some great people and their machinery from this forum and OzAudi.

Thanks heaps for the information, certainly hope the windows can operate in that manner as it will help save getting into a stinking hot car on a summer's day. Would also be very keen to see if there is a way to tie in the Virtual Cockpit, i have no doubt that my partner and I will have different setups and I really don't want to have to spend a lot of time changing it each time I drive!

By the looks of things I may need to make my way up to Sydney for the VCDS Love Fest :)

Chewie
09-02-2017, 12:14 PM
That's ok mate. We won't have ours until late May. Open invitation.

IsDon! Thank you for your generosity! If I get mine in time, count me in as well :toast:

hcvo1
09-02-2017, 05:36 PM
Hi all,

Could the opening of all windows (and/or the sunroof) from the key fob (if it doesn't do this already) and association of the set Virtual Cockpit layout to a driver setup or seat position following be made via VCDS tweaks?

I am in Melbourne, how would one get these changes made, as well as some of the others listed and what is an approximate cost?

Cheers!

Yes, I am looking for someone in Melbourne who can do this as well...

VWVY
09-02-2017, 06:43 PM
Yes, I am looking for someone in Melbourne who can do this as well...

yes same here too

Eyes24
09-02-2017, 06:54 PM
yes same here too

Me too , in May


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hcvo1
10-02-2017, 09:40 AM
Me too , in May


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Maybe we can split the cost of a flight down to Melbourne for IsDon 3 ways?


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Eyes24
10-02-2017, 01:45 PM
Maybe we can split the cost of a flight down to Melbourne for IsDon 3 ways?


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Maybe


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IsDon
10-02-2017, 02:18 PM
Maybe we can split the cost of a flight down to Melbourne for IsDon 3 ways?


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Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do get to Melbourne quite a bit with work so no airfare required.

There are plenty of guys in Melbourne that would be happy to help anyway.

If you don't have any luck here, try asking on OzAudi. The VCDS cable works on all VAG vehicles but the Audi guys seem more into VCDS.

Mac135
10-02-2017, 05:32 PM
IsDon is correct - lot's of guys on the ozaudi site with VCDS skills. I'm assuming they would be as willing to help fellow VAG owners.

Take a look at this link.
VAGCOM / VCDS Help - List of users willing to help here ! (http://www.ozaudi.com/forums/showthread.php/22805-VAGCOM-VCDS-Help-List-of-users-willing-to-help-here-%21?highlight=vcds) a few of them are in Melbourne.

I'm spending as much time on the A3/S3 forum as I am here waiting for my new S3 sedan to come through - still 3 weeks before its built.

REGS12
11-02-2017, 07:41 AM
Hey Mac, Will your next birthday be as good as this?

AEROBERGERKLOPS
08-03-2017, 09:28 PM
just read one of the other threads and was wondering if DAB+ is a software or a hardware thing on the Tiguan? Particularly for Highline models...

Delewin
08-03-2017, 10:02 PM
I think it is both as DAB+ uses a separate aerial to the analogue radio.

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shanelord
09-03-2017, 05:36 AM
DAB+ radio is one of the strangest omissions for the new model. Not sure why they didn't include it as standard in a modern car.

To stay on topic - it must be hardware as well. I poked around in VCDS and couldn't enable it as there is no module.

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Flipper Dog
09-03-2017, 04:54 PM
VW MIB2 Discover Pro uses a hardware modification to allow DAB+. The antenna setup should be already in place.

Regdop
09-03-2017, 07:06 PM
VW MIB2 Discover Pro uses a hardware modification to allow DAB+. The antenna setup should be already in place.

Does this mean we just have to make it available with VCDS?

Flipper Dog
09-03-2017, 08:23 PM
Does this mean we just have to make it available with VCDS?

No, it means you need additional parts inside of the main unit. The DAB+ receiver.

DV52
10-03-2017, 02:21 PM
yes same here too

When you get your Tiggy - PM: I'm in the North East of Melbourne, but if you allow me to take a full set of adaptation maps from your car - as a quid-pro-quo, I'll be happy to do your tweaks

Don

Delewin
13-03-2017, 10:33 AM
Hi All,

I have a question to put.

Can you use the front and rear cameras as a "Dash & rear Cam" via some VCDS tweak?

If so, where would you connect the recorder?

Thank you,
David

IsDon
13-03-2017, 03:49 PM
Hi All,

I have a question to put.

Can you use the front and rear cameras as a "Dash & rear Cam" via some VCDS tweak?

If so, where would you connect the recorder?

Thank you,
David

No. Nice thought though.

Eventually dash cams will be integrated into the vehicle as they are becoming so common these days. At the moment there's no way or recording the video feed.

The standard cameras on the front/rear/mirrors are optimised for the 360 degree top down camera system, and they work well at that. There's probably no technical reason why they couldn't be integrated as a dash cam as they are fish eye lenses, like dash cams but they're a long way behind as far as resolution goes.

If they could increase the resolution and incorporate some sort of recording system then this is probably the next step.

Delewin
13-03-2017, 04:38 PM
Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Then where/How do you fit a dash cam and how do you power it?

Off the 12v socket?
Elsewhere?

I do not want to obstruct any sensors, driver or passenger view??

Could it be mounted in the front grill?

Just thinking aloud.

What have other people used as solutions?

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TheTig
13-03-2017, 04:47 PM
Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Then where/How do you fit a dash cam and how do you power it?

Off the 12v socket?
Elsewhere?

I do not want to obstruct any sensors, driver or passenger view??

Could it be mounted in the front grill?

Just thinking aloud.

What have other people used as solutions?

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I decided to get one fitted by the dealer, a blackvue DR650S-2CH which is front and rear 1080p with Wifi it also includes a power magic pack so it doesn't drain the battery and professionally fitted so no wires hanging around.

Never had one before but considering the investment and all the crazy people on the roads, think it can only help in the case of an accident or the movement detection for car park incidents, at the very least it could make for some interesting movie nights watching stupid drivers doing stupid things on the roads.

veew
13-03-2017, 04:57 PM
I decided to get one fitted by the dealer, a blackvue DR650S-2CH which is front and rear 1080p with Wifi it also includes a power magic pack so it doesn't drain the battery and professionally fitted so no wires hanging around.

Never had one before but considering the investment and all the crazy people on the roads, think it can only help in the case of an accident or the movement detection for car park incidents, at the very least it could make for some interesting movie nights watching stupid drivers doing stupid things on the roads.

How much did the dealer charge for the dash cam and installation?

IsDon
13-03-2017, 05:02 PM
Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Then where/How do you fit a dash cam and how do you power it?

Off the 12v socket?
Elsewhere?

I do not want to obstruct any sensors, driver or passenger view??

Could it be mounted in the front grill?

Just thinking aloud.

What have other people used as solutions?

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Now that I can help you with.

I've fitted a Blackvue 650GW-2CH to my A6 Allroad and have a brand new 650S-2CH waiting for the delivery of my wife's Tiguan in May.

Couldn't be happier with these cameras. They're absolutely brilliant.

They've got a great accompanying app which utilises the cloud so you can track the cars progress in real time via a live video feed. I'm currently in Dubai watching my wife drive my daughter home from gymnastics in Sydney. Brilliant!

As for fitting. The Audi has a fuse block on the end of the dash where the drivers door closes. I expect the Tiguan will be similar. This provides very easy access for a switched 12V (acc) using a fuse tap. I then have this switched power supplying a Cellink-B lithium polymer battery which fast charges at 7A. This supplies power to the front camera and, through an umbilical, the rear camera.

Yes, you have to be careful with where you put the camera. Mine sits beside the mirror housing on the drivers side. This puts the camera lens as close as possible to the centre line of the car without blocking any sensors from the mirror itself, which is on the passenger side. Running the cables is very easy. Along the windscreen, down the A pillar and then along the door rubbers to the back. You have to be careful with how you negotiate the boot hinge and make sure you leave enough cable so the action of opening/closing the boot doesn't leave the potential for stretching or cutting the cable.

Overall the fitment is very easy with basic technical skill.

I recommend using a seperate battery if you wish to take advantage of recording while you're parked. Yes, it is more expensive than the other option of a Powermagic Pro, but there is no possibility of you flattening your car battery, and the Cellink will generally provide a longer recording time than your car battery would.

You can't mount on the front grill as the cameras aren't water proof. They must be inside.

I expect installation in the Tiguan will be as straightforward as the Audi install was.

The Audi does have a SIM card and a wifi hotspot for the camera to connect to the cloud. The VW doesn't. There are options for providing a standalone wifi hotspot in the vehicle which I'll be investigating.

TheTig
13-03-2017, 05:03 PM
How much did the dealer charge for the dash cam and installation?

To much considering you can pick up this model for around $500 of the net. But all up including 64Gb memory card, fitting and the capacitor charger it was just over $1000. The main thing I was interested in was the dealer fits it so warranty is carried over as well..

IsDon
13-03-2017, 05:17 PM
To much considering you can pick up this model for around $500 of the net. But all up including 64Gb memory card, fitting and the capacitor charger it was just over $1000. The main thing I was interested in was the dealer fits it so warranty is carried over as well..

Man, this warranty paranoia annoys me. Exactly how is fitting a dashcam going to affect your warranty?

You can get the DR650-2CH with a 64G card here for just over $500 after the discount with your email address. https://www.linelink.com.au/collections/dash-cameras/products/blackvue-dr650s-2ch-64gb

The Powermagic is about $30-40. So less than $600 for your setup.

The first time I fitted my camera took me about an hour.

It was VERY easy.

I don't think paying the dealer $400 for an hours work is good value personally. And I'll bet I took a great deal more care and time fitting it than they would have.

Delewin
13-03-2017, 05:29 PM
Thank you for these good replies. I already have a dash cam which I could fit at the rear. It is a street guardian. Full hd Sony sensor. 128 Gb as card capacity with 64Gb installed. Touch screen. Built in gps.
Has other features that I cannot remember atm. I also have the power magic pro adaptor but I did not fit it in my XTrail.

I like the idea of a separate rechargeable battery to power the camera when the car is parked. What size is the battery?

Getting the power from a fuse link is also an excellent idea.

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IsDon
13-03-2017, 05:43 PM
The Celllink-B is $300 here. https://www.linelink.com.au/collections/accessories/products/cellink-b-battery-pack-for-dash-cams.

It is a 76.8 Wh battery which is the highest capacity I could find. Charging at 7A (hard wired) it will charge from dead flat to full in 1 hour. That will give you 19 hours charge with a front and rear setup like the Blackvue, or nominally 34 hours with a front camera only.


You can also add a second battery in a daisy chain arrangement to double your capacity. The expansion battery is $250.

Regdop
13-03-2017, 05:46 PM
Is there anyone in Brisbane willing to do VCDS tweaks for me? Of course willing to pay for your time and use of equipment. I'm wanting to turn off stop start, have recirculating aircon on as standard, and disable the safety prompts when you first start the car, and any others you might recommend?
cheers
Gary

IsDon
13-03-2017, 05:46 PM
Having had a Powermagic for a couple of years, I decided to go with a seperate battery after the Powermagic decided not to shut off the power when it should have resulting in a flat car battery. It happened a couple of times. I've had to replace the car battery as a result. Luckily the car is still under a fully maintained lease.


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AEROBERGERKLOPS
13-03-2017, 06:12 PM
Is there anyone in Brisbane willing to do VCDS tweaks for me? Of course willing to pay for your time and use of equipment. I'm wanting to turn off stop start, have recirculating aircon on as standard, and disable the safety prompts when you first start the car, and any others you might recommend?
cheers
Gary

I'm also in Brisbane and would be keen to know if there are any members here that would be able to help with the VCDS tweaks, once our car arrives.

TheTig
13-03-2017, 07:10 PM
Man, this warranty paranoia annoys me. Exactly how is fitting a dashcam going to affect your warranty?

You can get the DR650-2CH with a 64G card here for just over $500 after the discount with your email address. https://www.linelink.com.au/collections/dash-cameras/products/blackvue-dr650s-2ch-64gb

The Powermagic is about $30-40. So less than $600 for your setup.

The first time I fitted my camera took me about an hour.

It was VERY easy.

I don't think paying the dealer $400 for an hours work is good value personally. And I'll bet I took a great deal more care and time fitting it than they would have.

You misread my post IsDon and have my warranty concern arse about, what I do want is the dealer to supply and fit the dashcam so it becomes part of the vehicle so then if it or the install has problems then they have to warrant it, yes it does cost more but it also gives me piece of mind.

IsDon
13-03-2017, 07:24 PM
You misread my post IsDon and have my warranty concern arse about, what I do want is the dealer to supply and fit the dashcam so it becomes part of the vehicle so then if it or the install has problems then they have to warrant it, yes it does cost more but it also gives me piece of mind.

Ok. I misunderstood.

But I think you also have a misunderstanding of what warranty you're going to get.

Your car has a three year warranty.

Your dashcam has a twelve month warranty.

Just because your dealer fitted the dashcam does not mean you magically bought yourself a three year warranty for your dashcam.

You have, I believe, a twelve month warranty on the work performed by the dealer on your behalf (like stuff ups in servicing). So if he stuffed up the install somehow his work is warranted for a year. There is also a twelve month warranty on the camera. As the retailer, in your case, is the dealer then it is the dealer who is the retailer who is legally responsible for your warranty claim, I grant you that. But you would also have exactly the same rights to a warranty if you bought the dashcam elsewhere and fitted it yourself.

So, can you explain to me again what sort of additional warranty your $400 has secured?

I submit to you that you are actually far more likely to get a successful claim for warranty on a malfunctioning dashcam through a retailer that isn't VW.

TheTig
13-03-2017, 07:54 PM
It all ties in with consumer guarantees as per Australian law. You ever had a warranty claim for a mobile phone that is outside its warranty but still under contract? It's considered within the acceptable life of the product and they have to help you. I'm surprised the amount of times people give up or dont understand there rights as consumers when it comes to products that break or arent fit for service.

Delewin
13-03-2017, 07:57 PM
Hi IsDon
Just paid $280 for the Cellink B from Linelink. Got $15 off for signing up for their spam emails. [emoji33]
Free shipping is good.

Thanks again IsDon.

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IsDon
13-03-2017, 07:59 PM
It all ties in with consumer guarantees as per Australian law. You ever had a warranty claim for a mobile phone that is outside its warranty but still under contract? It's considered within the acceptable life of the product and they have to help you. I'm surprised the amount of times people give up or dont understand there rights as consumers when it comes to products that break or arent fit for service.

Yes. That's true.

Exactly the same as the warranty rights you have under Australian consumer law for any product you buy. So if you purchased the product yourself, and fitted it yourself, you would be entitled to exactly the same rights to warranty outside of the stated period.

Having it fitted by dealer does not, in any way, give you any better protection. If that's what the dealer told you then he has sold you a $400 pup.

Now here's an example. I recently had a failure of the RTC battery of my dashcam.

I've had it for three years of faultless service up until now.

The RTC battery is an internal battery in the dashcam that powers the camera after the main power fails. Not for recording, mainly for time keeping etc. The only way I knew this was a problem was that the camera was losing time after the main power is disconnected. Otherwise it worked perfectly.

Now this is way outside the 12 month warranty, but three years is pretty good for any consumer electronic device. I contacted Autoblackbox in Perth, the national Blackvue distributor. I had the option of sending my own camera to Korea to be repaired, or I could be given a reconditioned exchange. As explained to me, I send them my camera, they send it off to Korea for complete refurbishment and checking, they keep a pool of refurbished spares which they provide to me for $90 immediately. That's posted back to me, overnight. The refurbished camera has a 3 month warranty.

I don't know about you, but I reckon that's pretty bloody good customer service. That's for a camera I bought, and installed myself. I didn't even buy it directly from Autoblackbox to begin with.

So given this scenario, in three years time, on a camera that a VW dealer has installed for you. Do you honestly think VW, with its borderline at best customer service, is going to provide you with a better outcome?

TheTig
13-03-2017, 08:17 PM
Absolutely correct, I'm choosing to have the dealer do it rather than sourcing it myself and then fitting it. Much prefer to tie it all up together and get them to handle it, easier for me if there are any issues.

IsDon
13-03-2017, 08:30 PM
Hi IsDon
Just paid $280 for the Cellink B from Linelink. Got $15 off for signing up for their spam emails. [emoji33]
Free shipping is good.

Thanks again IsDon.

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Well done mate. You won't be disappointed.

May I please say now that I'm not in any way associated with Autoblackbox or Linelink. Just a satisfied customer of both companies.

Now, my most recent dealing with Linelink. When I purchased my second Blackvue for the wife's new Tig, I bought, at the same time two Cellink-B batteries. One for the new camera, and one for the old camera in my Audi to replace the faulty Powermagic. I contacted them, once I put the items in my cart on the website and on their online chat function asked if I could get a further discount as I was spending $1100 in one hit. No problems, code provided and additional discount appeared instantly in my cart prior to checkout.

Last week, I realised I hadn't thought of the front and rear polarising filters. The two came to $98. Below the $100 to get the standard discount. Another chat, "remember me, a returning customer" their reply, "no worries", another code and $12 off.

These guys rock!

If their after sales support is even a fraction of their sales support I should have no issues with future warranties.

Now VW could learn a thing from these guys.

Delewin
13-03-2017, 08:32 PM
Based on IsDon's experience my money is with self installation.

We just have to accept a time and convenience penalty.

But in general I am happier with the outcome.

My 2 cents.

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IsDon
13-03-2017, 08:33 PM
Anyone in South Sydney, I'm happy to help with an install if you're not confident.

Same with VCDS tweaks.


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theitchy
14-03-2017, 04:59 AM
thinkwareF770 +battery were installed by MC car security for $280. Nice job and MCcar put battery under front passenger seat and i dont see any running cable except a short run on windscreen. I ll post the photo later as a reference for anyone who want to put it on.

Regdop
14-03-2017, 02:13 PM
Anyone in South Sydney, I'm happy to help with an install if you're not confident.

Same with VCDS tweaks.


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Very nice of you IsDon... good on you!! Hopefully we can find someone as generous as you in Brisbane :)

NZ_GolfR
15-03-2017, 10:56 AM
My OBD11 adapter arrived the other day and finally got a chance to have a little play. I have disabled the Stop/Start system just using the voltage method at this stage (might try the other way as well so I don't get the crossed out A symbol in the dash).

Also found that you can make some changes to the AID display. I have changed the Depiction to Option 3 which has changed the colouring to orange instead of blue (sorry not the best photos):

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/26cb209c5b401560be15204bdcacf6e8-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/967e430bec1d9e2069f4e4060607fadf-3.jpg

One cool thing with this display is the orange dots in the centre dance around when you switch display screen. Will see if I can take a video and upload.

There in another depiction option that changed the speedo and rev counter layout, will try switching to that and take some more photos. There was a forth option but couldn't tell any difference to that and the default option 1.

The next thing I want to try is getting the Traffic Info and Traffic Speed Sign recognition turned on but not sure if they will work here in NZ or not.


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NZ_GolfR
15-03-2017, 12:40 PM
Here is a video I managed to record of the Active Info Diplay colour change, I would actually call the colour Gold now rather than Orange after seeing it a bit. One this I hadn't noticed when I first changed it was that it also changes the colour of the startup sequence:


https://youtu.be/aIFHvPqhmpo

Gladbach
15-03-2017, 01:15 PM
Here is a video I managed to record of the Active Info Diplay colour change, I would actually call the colour Gold now rather than Orange after seeing it a bit. One this I hadn't noticed when I first changed it was that it also changes the colour of the startup sequence:


https://youtu.be/aIFHvPqhmpo

Awesome, thanks for the photos and the video. I don't really understand why they can't make this type of thing available via the standard menu system. It would be great to have some other colours/themes to choose from.

I also wish you could make the dials as small as they go in the Audi VC. I know you can make them a little bit smaller, but in the Audi you can make them much smaller again, leaving more room for the maps.

TIG162R
15-03-2017, 01:29 PM
Here is a video I managed to record of the Active Info Diplay colour change,

Thanks for the pics & video NZ_GolfR!



I also wish you could make the dials as small as they go in the Audi VC. I know you can make them a little bit smaller, but in the Audi you can make them much smaller again, leaving more room for the maps.

Wonder if there is a tweak to make it smaller like the Audi?

NZ_GolfR
15-03-2017, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the pics & video NZ_GolfR!

Wonder if there is a tweak to make it smaller like the Audi?

I will do some more playing later and see what else can be done with it. There were 4 different depiction settings and I could only see differences between 3 of them but I didn't try all the different display screens on them so will try testing more.

There are lots of other settings under the Dashboard module that I haven't looked at yet so who knows what else can get changed yet.

DV52
18-03-2017, 06:03 PM
Lots of folk here getting interested in VCDS tweaks for their new Tiggy. - well if you want a complete list of Adaptation channels and their settings for the BCM (the module @ address hex09) download the MS Excel spread-sheet HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ranx14vyrmjbbvp/2017_Tiggy_BCM_Forum%20version.xlsx?dl=0) (yes, the control module really does have 1,835 x adaptation channels!)

The information comes from an Aussie 2017 Tiguan Highline Rline (thanks VWYW)

The layout is self explanatory, but here's a pictorial explanation:

The picture shows my spread-sheet on the top and the admap for the BCM when opened in a text editor at the bottom.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/h5YoQiOpng-3.jpg

How might you use the information? Well...... as I have been saying on another thread, there is a wealth of (almost) suitable tweaks for the new Tiggy from other MQB platform vehicles. However in some cases the Tiguan control modules have a superficial change to the name of some adaptation channels. These slight change in names can make finding an adaption channel quite difficult when you are attempting to implement the tweak.

So, before you go to the car - open MS Excel and load my spread sheet. Then use the search function to search for a portion of the adaptation channel name from the other MQB car instruction (I suggest that you use the rear part of the adaptation channel name - the "Child" part). If (when) you find the Child name on my spreadsheet, the cell to the left-side will tell you the Tiggy's name for the Parent channel. Use this adaptation channel identifier when you do the tweak

Easy-Peazy-Lemon-Squeasy!!

Don

theitchy
18-03-2017, 07:04 PM
DV52 or any experts of VCD or OBDELEVEN whenever you are in sydney, please take a chance to get some extra cash by activating my Tiggy ....hehe. ... i know nothing about this but love to see my car with a bit more with technologies. Thank you

veew
18-03-2017, 08:39 PM
Lots of folk here getting interested in VCDS tweaks for their new Tiggy. - well if you want a complete list of Adaptation channels and their settings for the BCM (the module @ address hex09) download the MS Excel spread-sheet HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ranx14vyrmjbbvp/2017_Tiggy_BCM_Forum%20version.xlsx?dl=0) (yes, the control module really does have 1,835 x adaptation channels!)

The information comes from an Aussie 2017 Tiguan Highline Rline (thanks VWYW)



Champ, thanks Don and VWYW.

Also NZ-GolfR, the colour change looks pretty nice. Makes the AID look like the new Arteon's.

veew
18-03-2017, 08:41 PM
Also found that you can make some changes to the AID display. I have changed the Depiction to Option 3 which has changed the colouring to orange instead of blue

Good going mate, if you can take screenshots step by step for any working tweaks I'll add it to my OP under an OBD11 section.

Cheers!

DV52
18-03-2017, 08:55 PM
DV52 or any experts of VCD or OBDELEVEN whenever you are in sydney, please take a chance to get some extra cash by activating my Tiggy ....hehe. ... i know nothing about this but love to see my car with a bit more with technologies. Thank you

theitchy: I've now amassed quite an arsenal of different diagnostic tools - some better than others, but my go-to device still is my trusty HEX-NET. Runs "like a cut cat" compared to all other devices that I have tried and the service/updates from Ross-Tech are the best!!

Alas though - I'm about 880 kms South West of Sydney, but I'm sure that you will find a forum colleague closer to home.

Don

theitchy
18-03-2017, 09:35 PM
DV52 you mean Ross Tech offer this kind of activation also? If they are i can give them a try to open more functions for the car. Thank you

drazman2000
19-03-2017, 05:56 AM
Where is the best place to purchase an obdeleven unit?

DV52
19-03-2017, 10:12 AM
DV52 you mean Ross Tech offer this kind of activation also? If they are i can give them a try to open more functions for the car. Thank you

theitchy: No- I'm confusing you! Ross-Tech themselves don't offer a coding service, but they do offer an excellent support service for registered users of their products (great email support and the contributors on their forum have awesome expertise!). They are also excellent in their software updates - VCDS cables aren't always able to keep-up with every new car that VW/AUDI/SKODA etc release, but they aren't too bad (IMO).

But (there is always a "but"), RT cables aren't inexpensive! So, it's cost/value proposition for prospective buyers and many choose OBDeleven for this reason (OBD11 is still a reasonable cable).

Your choice, but don't buy a fake cable - you are only supporting the theft of RT's intellectual property

Don

shanelord
19-03-2017, 10:20 AM
theitchy: No- I'm confusing you! Ross-Tech themselves don't offer a coding service, but they do offer an excellent support service for registered users of their products (great email support and the contributors on their forum have awesome expertise!). They are also excellent in their software updates - VCDS cables aren't always able to keep-up with every new car that VW/AUDI/SKODA etc release, but they aren't too bad (IMO).

But (there is always a "but"), RT cables aren't inexpensive! So, it's cost/value proposition for prospective buyers and many choose OBDeleven for this reason (OBD11 is still a reasonable cable).

Your choice, but don't buy a fake cable - you are only supporting the theft of RT's intellectual property

Don

I've used RT for years and yes they're great, but now with the 2016+ MQB platform I need to upgrade my cable. They offer a trade in but to get the Pro version, which is the equivalent of what I currently have, I'm looking at $399 USD.

As an enthusiast that has helped many people over the years (above the 10 VIN max of the "cheaper" $249 cable) I just can't see the justification in this, so I've ordered the OBDEleven Pro instead.

Will see how I go.

Shane.


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DV52
19-03-2017, 12:36 PM
Shane: good choice - you won't be disappointed with an OBD11 dongle (make sure that your internet connection in the workshop/garage is good)!!

The software currently has an incompatibility problem with some MY17 MQB control modules (i.e. the new ABS module with the 47 byte-count), but I suspect that the designers back at OBD11 HQ will have this matter fixed shorty!

Don

Delewin
19-03-2017, 02:18 PM
Hi Don and Shane

With the RT product if you run out of VIN spots does it just ask you to choose which one to forget or are you cactus?

Can you save a complete VIN profile xand then reload it back when you want to work on that car?

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DV52
19-03-2017, 05:45 PM
Hi Don and Shane

With the RT product if you run out of VIN spots does it just ask you to choose which one to forget or are you cactus?

Can you save a complete VIN profile xand then reload it back when you want to work on that car?

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Below is a short story from Uwe Ross (from the RT forum) that explains how the VIN limits work.
Don


Why sell VIN-Limited interfaces?
Because it allows us to charge for the product in a manner that's somewhat commensurate with how the product is used. A professional workshop that's in and out of several vehicles a day with their VCDS gets considerably more value from the product than a private individual who only uses it occasionally one one or two of his own cars. When the previous generation of interfaces was designed 10-12 years ago, most VW/Audi cars on the road did not yet know their own VIN, so it was not really practical to restrict usage that way. Hence the pricing on our universal interfaces (interfaces that worked with all the cars available at that point) had always something of a compromise. Plenty of workshops told us that VCDS was the best value for the money of any tool they'd ever bought and that we could/should charge more, but we were already at or close to the limit of what an enthusiast would pay, and enthusiasts were (and still are!) a very important part of our business. In fact, the reason this product exists is that I got frustrated that I couldn't trouble-shoot my own cars anymore in the late 1990s. Some pros suggested that we make a less expensive version for enthusiasts by restricting the what the enthusiast version could do, but that was not an approach that was palatable to me. So now a decade later, most of the cars people are working on do know their VINs and restricting the number of cars an enthusiast can perform certain functions on seems like a reasonable way of differentiating between a "pro" and a private individual.

Will VCDS count a car's VIN as toward the license limit as soon as I plug into a particular car?
No! VCDS will never count a VIN toward the license limit without the user's explicit permission. It will always ask you first, thereby giving you the opportunity to decline to "register" a VIN in the interface. Besides, there are a lot of useful things you can do on an unlimited number of cars.

What functions are not VIN-Restricted?
A VIN-Limited interface can do Auto-Scans (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/autoscan.php), Clear DTCs (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/dtc_screen.php), and look at Measuring Values (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/adv-meas-blocks.php) on an unlimited number of cars. I think this is important because I wouldn't want to keep an enthusiast from doing basic diagnostics on his friends' cars, or to use his VCDS when evaluating used cars he's contemplating buying. You wouldn't buy a used car without doing an Auto-Scan on it first, right? In addition, you can make channel maps (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/controller-channels-map.php) on an unlimited number of cars because sending us those maps helps us improve the product.

What functions are VIN-Restricted?
In essence, it's those functions that actually change things in the car:


Adaptation (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/adaptation_screen.php)
Basic Settings (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/b-settings.php)
Changing Codings (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/recode_screen.php)
Changing the Gateway Installation List (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/installation-list.php)
Login (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/login_screen.php) or Security Access (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/securityaccess.php)
Output Tests (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/out_test.php)
Optical Bus Diagnostic (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/optical-bus.html)
Readiness (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/readiness.php)
Resetting SRI (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/sri-reset.php)
Turning Transport Mode on or off (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/transport-mode.html)


In addition, directly accessing a control module outside of an Auto-Scan will prompt the user whether he wants to "register" that car's VIN, but declining to do so at that point will not prevent access to the module.

What about older cars that do not know their VIN?
Simple: They are free. You can do anything and everything on those cars without them counting toward the license limit.

Which cars do and don't know their VIN?
Virtually all model year 2002 and newer do know their VINs -- basically those cars with Immo-3 and up. I believe the only model year 2000 car that had Immo-3 was the Audi A8, but a few others got Immo-3 in model year 2001.

If I sell one of my cars, can I de-register and free up that VIN slot?
No, it doesn't work that way. VINs are stored permanently. They cannot be erased.

Can I upgrade a 3-VIN license to 10 VINs, or a 10-VIN license to Unlimited?
Yes, absolutely. There's a provision for that in our store (https://store.ross-tech.com/shop/upVIN).

Delewin
19-03-2017, 07:09 PM
Hi Don
Thank you.
I am now settled. I will get the 10 VIN cable unit for US $299.

With all things I read that can be changed I think it is money well spent.

If I ever need to upgrade I it will cost an extra US $169 to go unlimited VIN.

As I have just spent ~$52,000 on my 162 TSI I want to give it a bit of tlc and personalisation.

One thing I love about my 162 to the untrained eye is it looks just like any other Tiguan. The difference is when I will plant my right foot. Contrary to some on this forum, I think it has a nice note under full acceleration.

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Regdop
19-03-2017, 08:18 PM
Please forgive me for these stupid questions...
Does OBDeleven allow you to do things like turn off stop/start, make recirc aircon default mode? I would also appreciate it if members could let me know what other tweaks it will do. The 2017 Tiguan isn't a listed model on their website, so not really able to work it out. I would happily purchase an android tablet etc to tweak certain things if I thought it was money well spent?
thank you to all who take time to reply...
cheers
Gary

shanelord
19-03-2017, 09:19 PM
Please forgive me for these stupid questions...
Does OBDeleven allow you to do things like turn off stop/start, make recirc aircon default mode? I would also appreciate it if members could let me know what other tweaks it will do. The 2017 Tiguan isn't a listed model on their website, so not really able to work it out. I would happily purchase an android tablet etc to tweak certain things if I thought it was money well spent?
thank you to all who take time to reply...
cheers
Gary

Yes it indeed does. Supports short and long coding etc. In essence you can do same as RT.

They also have "apps" which are prepackaged codings for certain cars and features (cost points per app used each time - whether std or pro model). This costs money to buy the points but you don't need to use the apps if you can program yourself.

AFAIK This is mostly what their vehicle support is about.

Shane.


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DV52
21-03-2017, 07:12 PM
Please forgive me for these stupid questions...
Does OBDeleven allow you to do things like turn off stop/start, make recirc aircon default mode? I would also appreciate it if members could let me know what other tweaks it will do. The 2017 Tiguan isn't a listed model on their website, so not really able to work it out. I would happily purchase an android tablet etc to tweak certain things if I thought it was money well spent?
thank you to all who take time to reply...
cheers
Gary
Gary: Hi - As Shane has indicated, OBD11 can do both adaptation channel and code-string changes, but you must buy the Pro unit to use these facilities. However, whilst the device has these capabilities, there are a few prerequisites that must be satisfied first before the user can successfully modify the control modules in the vehicle (regardless of whether the vehicle is a Tiggy, or any other car).

Perhaps the principal prerequisite is knowledge of the security codes for each module. Some changes need the user to first enter a security code before the control module will allow user access Typically the instances where security codes are needed are for adaptation changes (albeit, not all adaptation channel changes require security codes).

In the main, the security code numbers are found on the net and there has been a certain amount of cross-model sharing of these codes in the past. It's difficult to say how these numbers come into the public domain, but they certainly aren't available from VW directly in any way. I've had a degree of success finding new security codes by force polling the module with all possible combination of numbers. But, security codes have in the past been five-digit numbers, so 100,000 different candidate numbers need to be tried using this method ( it takes about 12 hours of continuous polling to try 100,000 numbers). I understand that VW is investigating 6 x digit security numbers!!

So- the reason why I'm telling you this is that some newer control modules on MQB platform vehicles use different security codes to their older siblings and to date no-one has found the correct number. The key example of this is the instrument control module @ address hex17 - since the introduction of MY16 models, no-one has been able to make changes to these modules that require a security number (except for the isolated case of the dash lighting algorithm). I suspect that the new Tiggy's instrument module will suffer this same problem, but I'm unsure if any other module in the new Tiggy will suffer the same fate. Time and experience of your colleague forum members will determine how many modules have unknown security numbers.

One final point about Shane's excellent reference to OBD11's Apps. They certainly are a quick and easy way to implement tweaks for the uninitiated (but they do cost credits). My advice is to try to minimize their use: using Apps tends to stifle user education because they are so easy to use. Think of each tweak as an opportunity to learn - Apps negate that opportunity. So use them sparingly and try to make a few errors because they are by far the best learning experience.

As for the tweaks that you mentioned, I was able to implement Traffic messages appearing on the SATNAV when the "TRAFFIC" button is pressed and disable Start-Stop on the new Tiggy that VWYW owns so I can confirm that these tweaks do work. To find other possible tweaks, just Google "VCDS" and cars like Skoda, Golf mk7 or any other MQB platform vehicle - or look on the OBD11 proboard.

Don

Regdop
21-03-2017, 07:54 PM
Gary: Hi - As Shane has indicated, OBD11 can do both adaptation channel and code-string changes, but you must buy the Pro unit to use these facilities. However, whilst the device has these capabilities, there are a few prerequisites that must be satisfied first before the user can successfully modify the control modules in the vehicle (regardless of whether the vehicle is a Tiggy, or any other car).

Perhaps the principal prerequisite is knowledge of the security codes for each module. Some changes need the user to first enter a security code before the control module will allow user access Typically the instances where security codes are needed are for adaptation changes (albeit, not all adaptation channel changes require security codes).

In the main, the security code numbers are found on the net and there has been a certain amount of cross-model sharing of these codes in the past. It's difficult to say how these numbers come into the public domain, but they certainly aren't available from VW directly in any way. I've had a degree of success finding new security codes by force polling the module with all possible combination of numbers. But, security codes have in the past been five-digit numbers, so 100,000 different candidate numbers need to be tried using this method ( it takes about 12 hours of continuous polling to try 100,000 numbers). I understand that VW is investigating 6 x digit security numbers!!

So- the reason why I'm telling you this is that some newer control modules on MQB platform vehicles use different security codes to their older siblings and to date no-one has found the correct number. The key example of this is the instrument control module @ address hex17 - since the introduction of MY16 models, no-one has been able to make changes to these modules that require a security number (except for the isolated case of the dash lighting algorithm). I suspect that the new Tiggy's instrument module will suffer this same problem, but I'm unsure if any other module in the new Tiggy will suffer the same fate. Time and experience of your colleague forum members will determine how many modules have unknown security numbers.

One final point about Shane's excellent reference to OBD11's Apps. They certainly are a quick and easy way to implement tweaks for the uninitiated (but they do cost credits). My advice is to try to minimize their use: using Apps tends to stifle user education because they are so easy to use. Think of each tweak as an opportunity to learn - Apps negate that opportunity. So use them sparingly and try to make a few errors because they are by far the best learning experience.

As for the tweaks that you mentioned, I was able to implement Traffic messages appearing on the SATNAV when the "TRAFFIC" button is pressed and disable Start-Stop on the new Tiggy that VWYW owns so I can confirm that these tweaks do work. To find other possible tweaks, just Google "VCDS" and cars like Skoda, Golf mk7 or any other MQB platform vehicle - or look on the OBD11 proboard.

Don

Cheers Don for your very thorough reply! I appreciate the time it took to write. I will indeed carry out more research before I travel this path. I am relatively new to this form, but really love the benefits of it...thanks very much indeed... Gary

NZ_GolfR
23-03-2017, 07:50 PM
Thought it was time that I finally get my act together and put up details for the tweaks that I have been doing with the Active Info Display as well as some other things I have found.

These instructions are using OBDEleven but can also be achieved using VCDS as well.

Go to Module 17 - Dash Board
In Adaptation search for Display depiction
Within this there are 4 Versions available.
The default is Version 1 and as far as I can tell Version 2 is identical.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/3ce989024a81a89497c06373be66bdb8-3.jpg

Version 3 gives you the Gold display which I really like especially with the golden dots that bounce around when switching screens

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/cffbe934d3c1601f85e64e1e57e8c44d-3.jpg

Version 4 is a more minimalist version of 1 (and 2)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/84bfa7f9f1f7e7c70bdcad033bb1b9c0-2.jpg

I really like the golden one however it just doesn't match the blue colouring within the Infotainment system. I have tried to see if there is an option to have the same gold colour but so far no luck. Because of this I am currently running Version 4 as I like the cleaner more minimalist look of this one.

The only colour changes I have managed to make is to change the absolute bottom line from blue to white.

Go to Module 5F - Information Control Unit
Coding
byte_17_Skinning
The default value is Skin_1

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/bfda4d4db8b2aa41e61c4175bdbb36d0-3.jpg

Skin_2 gives you the white line at the bottom as well as white box around the FM Station logos:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/ade9b5abbaf4906bd33180309cdb164e-3.jpg

Skin_3 and no_Skin looks the same as Skin_1


Hunting around the coding posts on other forum sites I discovered on the Golf you can change the car image on the Infotainment system from a standard Golf to a GTI so I got all excited that this might be the same as I really wished the car that is shown in my was a R Line and not the standard Tiguan but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case at this stage (am hoping they might include this as an option in later software updates). I did find that you can change the type of car that is displayed altogether (you can have it show a Touran if you want).

Go to Module 5F - Information Control Unit
Coding
byte_2_Car_Derivate
Available Values are 0-9
Tiguan = Value 6

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/81c93a28b30bf72b40e379a2953133a5-3.jpg

Golf = Values 0, 1, 3, 4, 5, 7 (Not sure if there is any difference between these)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/df195dd5c4fc5d309e10249cc4fa3652-3.jpg

Golf Wagon = Value 2

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/07175f71c69deec3c2dbb20abc62ee64-3.jpg

Touran = Value 8, 9 (Not sure of the difference here either)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/655320b97a3020418fb6b9640bb09999-3.jpg

byte_2_Car_Derivate_Supplement setting is where you can apparently change the Golf to a GTI version by setting byte_2_Car_Derivate to 0 and byte_2_Car_Derivate_Supplement to 1 although this didn't seem to work on mine, the Golf just remained the same so don't know if you need a specific software version for this.

Unfortunately changing the byte_2_Car_Derivate_Supplement value for the Tiguan doesn't make any difference to the car images displayed.

One last thing I have tweaked is the logo that appears on the Infotainment screen when it boots up, as standard it showed R Line (obviously if you have a non R Line then this will be different) but I have now go it showing the R Logo. This is a very minor change any hardly noticed, especially on mine as it only flashes up for a few seconds then switched to the DYNAUDIO logo instead.

Go to Module 5F - Information Control Unit
Coding
byte_18_Screenings
0 = None
1 = Hybrid
2 = GTD
3 = GTI
4 = Bluemotion
5 = E-Golf
6 = R Line
7 = Golf R

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/1662ce283ab23424d9e9138592a6192c-3.jpg

I haven't tested all of these (info is taken from a MK7 Golf posting) but I know that 6 & 7 are definitely correct.

Just one note, any changes you make to the Infotainment System requires you doing a full reboot of it before it takes effect. To do this hold down the power button for at least 10 seconds until the screen goes blank and then it will automatically reboot.


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bestyjny
23-03-2017, 08:34 PM
Ok, so here are few from me :) All tested and working. I dropped those from NZ_GolfR to avoid duplicating.


- LED lights in door mirrors light, even in close:

Modules 42 and 52 -> Coding -> Byte 01 -> Bit 5 deactivated

- DRL off when lights switch on position "0", but on when "AUTO":

Module 09 -> Security Access enabled -> Adaptation -> search for "ENG115734" and change to inactive

- DLR option to switch on/off from menu (independent from above tweak):

Module 09 -> Security Access enabled -> Adaptation -> search for "ENG116594" and select from dropdown "Außenlicht_Front-Tagfahrlicht Aktivierung durch BAP oder Bedienfolge moeglich" -> change to active

Now you can go to Car Setup menu and you'll find extra tick to enable/disable DLRs.

- Refuel quantity on AID as one of Driving data options:

Module 17 -> Coding -> Byte 10 -> Bit 4 activated

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/1zdy4h-3.jpg

- Fan speed indicator (leds around button) when in AUTO mode:

Module 08 -> Coding -> Byte 11 -> Bit 6 activated

- Disable "ingnition on" alarm, when drivers door open:

Module 17 -> Adaptation -> search for "ignition" and select "actuator should appear as the only entry" from list -> change to "No display"

- Changing "blink" number on comfort blinkers:

Module 09 -> Security Access -> Adaptation -> select "Turn Signal Controls-Komfortblinken Blinkzykien" -> change between 1 and 5

- Gauge/Needle sweep on AID

Module 17 -> Coding -> Byte 01 -> Bit 00 activated

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/33ct1te-3.jpg

- "beep" when lock and unlock car doors

Module 09 -> Security Access -> Adaptation -> search for "acknowledgement" and depending what you want, select active or inactive for available options with "Akustische" in description

veew
24-03-2017, 07:56 AM
Cheers guys for recent updates. My OP has been updated to reflect this.

Ozsko
25-03-2017, 07:21 PM
/Subscribed.

VWVY
01-04-2017, 04:56 PM
Tried this tweak on my Tig and it worked:
Screen nag (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/vcds-vag-com-codes-programmable-options-golf-mk7-84619-post1120726.html#post1120726)

veew
08-04-2017, 05:45 PM
Tried this tweak on my Tig and it worked:
Screen nag (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/vcds-vag-com-codes-programmable-options-golf-mk7-84619-post1120726.html#post1120726)

Cheers, OP updated.

hcvo1
08-04-2017, 05:48 PM
Is there anyone in Melbourne that can turn on the traffic system? Happy to pay for the service


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DV52
09-04-2017, 10:20 AM
Is there anyone in Melbourne that can turn on the traffic system? Happy to pay for the service


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PM if you still want help

Don

Urby79
11-04-2017, 03:30 PM
Me and my cousin try some of your twaeks and faild by the car picture. I also have r line tiguan now I have no picture showen. Only golf and Passat were working. If I chose tiguan there was polo on the screen. Do u know the 6 digit code for tiguan?

hcvo1
15-04-2017, 05:06 PM
PM if you still want help

Don

Don, you are an absolute gentleman! Thank you for activating the traffic system - worked perfectly!

Delewin
05-05-2017, 06:57 AM
Hi all. I recently received my VCDS unit from Ross-Tech.
The first thing I tried was to enable the Traffic Notices on the navigation display.

I successfully changed the code from 65353? to 1024. And traffic management was enabled. Great.

Now I cannot see the navigation map on my DAP but I do have directions displayed in the The rev counter hub.

How do I get the map back?

Thanks
David

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shanelord
05-05-2017, 07:09 AM
Now I cannot see the navigation map on my DAP but I do have directions displayed in the The rev counter hub.

How do I get the map back?

Thanks
David

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I believe you have to use the head unit navigation to select the option to display the map on the DAP.

Changing that code shouldn't do anything to navigation display.

Shane.


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Delewin
05-05-2017, 07:16 AM
Thank you Shane.

I'll have a look tonight after work.

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sharp
15-05-2017, 02:57 PM
I know this is a VCDS thread but could someone kindly post the OBDeleven instructions on how to close the sunroof with the remote key like it opens/closes the side windows. My key only opens/close the side windows.

hoola
15-05-2017, 06:25 PM
I know this is a VCDS thread but could someone kindly post the OBDeleven instructions on how to close the sunroof with the remote key like it opens/closes the side windows. My key only opens/close the side windows.
Module 09 Central Electronics
Adaptations -> Schiebedach -> SAD Komfort schliessen -> set to active

sharp
15-05-2017, 08:05 PM
Module 09 Central Electronics
Adaptations -> Schiebedach -> SAD Komfort schliessen -> set to active

Thanks a lot hoola.

hoola
16-05-2017, 03:39 PM
Thanks a lot hoola.

If you also want the sunroof to open, then the adaptation setting is "SAD Komfort oeffnen". This will tilt the sunroof but not open it fully. Have tried both Comfort closing and opening settings and they work.

sharp
16-05-2017, 09:42 PM
If you also want the sunroof to open, then the adaptation setting is "SAD Komfort oeffnen". This will tilt the sunroof but not open it fully. Have tried both Comfort closing and opening settings and they work.

cheers for that too :)

theitchy
16-05-2017, 09:59 PM
that means SAD Komfort oeffnen can be open and close by using the key also hah?

veew
28-07-2017, 09:54 PM
Sorry I've been a bit MIA with this thread guys.
I did stumble on this for OBD2 users, not sure if I already posted before but here you go:
Volkswagen MK7 Golf OBDeleven / VCDS Tweaks List – AutoInstruct (https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/manufacturer/volkswagen/mk7-golf/mk7-golf-obdeleven-vcds-tweaks/)

Coxie
03-08-2017, 11:08 AM
I've done Light Assist and Traffic Updates for the moment, both are working great :)

veew
03-08-2017, 09:23 PM
I've done Light Assist and Traffic Updates for the moment, both are working great :)

Glad to hear Light Assist works with aussie cars too.

lm_jo
03-08-2017, 09:40 PM
I've done Light Assist and Traffic Updates for the moment, both are working great :)Does light light assist work on comfortline? Or is it just just a highline thing?

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hoola
04-08-2017, 01:12 AM
This is Highline only. Needs the AFS lights which are the LEDs. Comfortline lines are the basic lights which will not support light assist.


Does light light assist work on comfortline? Or is it just just a highline thing?

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veew
11-08-2017, 10:19 AM
Record of NZ_Golf R's OBD11 tweaks:

Sign in to your account (https://oncall-my.sharepoint.com/personal/aaron_oncall_co_nz/Documents/Forms/All.aspx?FolderCTID=0x0120006683553B5EE5DF40A38E5A 7F5BE5E0A7&id=%2Fpersonal%2Faaron_oncall_co_nz%2FDocuments%2F Tiguan%2F2017%20Tiguan%20OBDeleven%20Coding%20Chan ges%2F2017%20Tiguan%20OBDeleven%20Coding%20Changes %2Epdf&parent=%2Fpersonal%2Faaron_oncall_co_nz%2FDocument s%2FTiguan%2F2017%20Tiguan%20OBDeleven%20Coding%20 Changes)

MikeyT
16-08-2017, 12:36 PM
Hi All, considering buying an OBDEleven dongle but don't know much about it. Where is the best place to get one and how much does it cost? Also do we really need to buy the PRO upgrade pack or app? Thanks.

NZ_GolfR
16-08-2017, 01:03 PM
Hi All, considering buying an OBDEleven dongle but don't know much about it. Where is the best place to get one and how much does it cost? Also do we really need to buy the PRO upgrade pack or app? Thanks.

The OBDeleven is a small Bluetooth dongle that plugs into the diagnostic/config port on your car and allows you to check for errors and clear them as well as make changes to the programming of the car. You need to have an Android based device (tablet or phone) to run the app and connect to the dongle to access it. Because you can make changes to the car (and therefore potentially 'brake' some functionality of the car) it is important to have a good handle on what you are doing with it. I would strongly suggest following the details that everyone has posted on this site for the various tweaks/changes.

With regards to the Pro version of the app, if you want to make most of the changes listed on here then you will need this to be able to do the coding. With the basic version of the app you can view and clear errors but all the program changes are limited to their One-Click program changes which you have to buy credit to use. The issue with these is that the Tiguan is such a new model that I wouldn't trust most of them, I know for fact that while trying to work out the Headlight Assist and Rear DRL the coding I found for other VW, Skoda & Audi models didn't work on the Tiguan.

As for where to buy, I got mine earlier this year directly from their website, at the time it was only €54.99 for the Pro bundle with free shipping but I see it is more expensive now.

MikeyT
16-08-2017, 02:35 PM
The OBDeleven is a small Bluetooth dongle that plugs into the diagnostic/config port on your car and allows you to check for errors and clear them as well as make changes to the programming of the car. You need to have an Android based device (tablet or phone) to run the app and connect to the dongle to access it. Because you can make changes to the car (and therefore potentially 'brake' some functionality of the car) it is important to have a good handle on what you are doing with it. I would strongly suggest following the details that everyone has posted on this site for the various tweaks/changes.

With regards to the Pro version of the app, if you want to make most of the changes listed on here then you will need this to be able to do the coding. With the basic version of the app you can view and clear errors but all the program changes are limited to their One-Click program changes which you have to buy credit to use. The issue with these is that the Tiguan is such a new model that I wouldn't trust most of them, I know for fact that while trying to work out the Headlight Assist and Rear DRL the coding I found for other VW, Skoda & Audi models didn't work on the Tiguan.

As for where to buy, I got mine earlier this year directly from their website, at the time it was only €54.99 for the Pro bundle with free shipping but I see it is more expensive now.

Thanks NZ_GolfR, much appreciated. I see you are also a big contributor to posting tweaks on here, keep up the good work mate.

Just on the retentions of these tweaks, if by any chance there is a software update from VW in the future and they put the update on the car during service, will these tweaks get wiped?

NZ_GolfR
18-08-2017, 08:16 AM
Here is the coding to enable Rear DRL. This works on the LED Lights that come with the NZ R-Lines, not sure if it works with any other type of rear lights.

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9 - Lichtfunktion B 16 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht rechts)

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3 - Lichtfunktion B 17 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re))

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte23SL HLC10 - Lichtfunktion B 23 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re))

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte24SL HRA65 - Lichtfunktion B 24 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht rechts)

There is option in there to adjust the brightness as well however I haven't changed this setting as it will potentially make the park lights too bright at night time.

artful
18-08-2017, 03:12 PM
Here is the coding to enable Rear DRL. This works on the LED Lights that come with the NZ R-Lines, not sure if it works with any other type of rear lights.

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9 - Lichtfunktion B 16 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht rechts)

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3 - Lichtfunktion B 17 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re))

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte23SL HLC10 - Lichtfunktion B 23 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re))

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte24SL HRA65 - Lichtfunktion B 24 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht rechts)

There is option in there to adjust the brightness as well however I haven't changed this setting as it will potentially make the park lights too bright at night time.

Great, gonna try this tonight.

cabby09
19-08-2017, 01:41 AM
Here is the coding to enable Rear DRL. This works on the LED Lights that come with the NZ R-Lines, not sure if it works with any other type of rear lights.

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9 - Lichtfunktion B 16 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht rechts)

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3 - Lichtfunktion B 17 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re))

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte23SL HLC10 - Lichtfunktion B 23 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re))

Central Electronic (09) - Adaptation - Leuchte24SL HRA65 - Lichtfunktion B 24 - Change to Tagfahrlicht (Original Value: Parklicht rechts)

There is option in there to adjust the brightness as well however I haven't changed this setting as it will potentially make the park lights too bright at night time.

I made changes to the same modules as you a while back, the way I got it to work without changing any current settings was to add Tagfahrlicht to Lichtfunktion C on those 4 modules. That way if you want to attempt to adjust the brightness you do it in Dimmwert CD and it won't affect Dimmwert AB.

Regdop
21-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Hi Guys,
Just took receipt of my dongle, was really disappointed to not see a stop/start App in there for my 2017 Tiguan, Also not being a technical person was disappointed there is no instruction manual. So I followed this...
Select Control unit 19
Adaptation
Start Stop Limit voltage
Value=12

when I touch the start stop limit voltage line I get " something went wrong try again" message. I have restarted my device and the app but it keeps happening? Please advise
Gary

Regdop
21-08-2017, 03:14 PM
Further to my previous post, i did some research and cleared the app data on my device and the change to voltage was accepted. My question now is (as I have not driven the car since modification) is the Stop/start permanently disengaged? I mean the switch illuminates when I turn it off, and says disengaged? Do I need to do this anymore? keep in mind I'm just sitting in the garage with the engine running and is aimed at the guys who have done this?...cheers

NZ_GolfR
21-08-2017, 03:46 PM
Further to my previous post, i did some research and cleared the app data on my device and the change to voltage was accepted. My question now is (as I have not driven the car since modification) is the Stop/start permanently disengaged? I mean the switch illuminates when I turn it off, and says disengaged? Do I need to do this anymore? keep in mind I'm just sitting in the garage with the engine running and is aimed at the guys who have done this?...cheers

Yes, it is permanently disabled now. The change you made tells the Stop/Start system to only kick in if the voltage level is over 12V but since other things are running in the car it will never read 12V.

You will notice that when you go for a drive next and stop at an intersection/traffic lights it will show the A symbol with a line through it in the dash to say the Stop/Start system will not turn on. The button by the gear lever now does nothing.


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Regdop
21-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Yes, it is permanently disabled now. The change you made tells the Stop/Start system to only kick in if the voltage level is over 12V but since other things are running in the car it will never read 12V.

You will notice that when you go for a drive next and stop at an intersection/traffic lights it will show the A symbol with a line through it in the dash to say the Stop/Start system will not turn on. The button by the gear lever now does nothing.


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Thank you....Happy Days!!

Hugo_nz
21-08-2017, 04:47 PM
Can confirm that Traffic Sign Recognition works on my car using the coding in this thread.


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Regdop
21-08-2017, 06:20 PM
Can confirm that Traffic Sign Recognition works on my car using the coding in this thread.


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Can you please point me to that post?.... cheers!

zzc2010
21-08-2017, 07:27 PM
Can confirm that Traffic Sign Recognition works on my car using the coding in this thread.


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Are there any errors?

Is it in Fusion mode or Road sign detect?

Is the function restricted?

Brobbe
21-08-2017, 07:57 PM
Does traffic sign recognition works on cars WITHOUT navigation?

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cabby09
22-08-2017, 12:36 AM
Does traffic sign recognition works on cars WITHOUT navigation?

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If you have module A5 on your car it will work.

Brobbe
22-08-2017, 12:44 AM
If you have module A5 on your car it will work.Thank You! I must check this tomorrow! :)

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Hugo_nz
22-08-2017, 06:40 AM
Are there any errors?

Is it in Fusion mode or Road sign detect?

Is the function restricted?

It's road set to "Detect" not "Fusion". It does give a limited function warning, but it works as expected ie., it picks up the road-side signs and also temporary signs which have been placed for road-works.

Hugo_nz
22-08-2017, 04:54 PM
I enabled the 360 camera feature today. Pretty neat. Check out thevideo:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/hhwCUR1k0Wg

GeeMoney
22-08-2017, 06:05 PM
I enabled the 360 camera feature today. Pretty neat. Check out thevideo:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/hhwCUR1k0Wg

The camera should also be there already? Or did you build it in?

zzc2010
22-08-2017, 06:12 PM
It's road set to "Detect" not "Fusion". It does give a limited function warning, but it works as expected ie., it picks up the road-side signs and also temporary signs which have been placed for road-works.

Hi

Mine TSR functions the same as yours but it presents signs with white background and surroundings.

Is it the same as yours?

Also, my car only picks up the speed signs but no others in Sydney.

My A5 firmware is fairly old 0220 maybe thats the reason.

Hugo_nz
22-08-2017, 06:32 PM
The camera should also be there already? Or did you build it in?

My car has surround view fitted. I enabled the 360 feature via OBDEleven.


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Hugo_nz
22-08-2017, 06:36 PM
Hi

Mine TSR functions the same as yours but it presents signs with white background and surroundings.

Is it the same as yours?

Also, my car only picks up the speed signs but no others in Sydney.

My A5 firmware is fairly old 0220 maybe thats the reason.

So far mine has shown 2 signs. I drive pretty much the same routes every day so never really get the chance to drive past different signs.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/09cc9b95074c88a6852fd781d2c2fdd0-1.jpg



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Brobbe
22-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Ok, so here are few from me :) All tested and working. I dropped those from NZ_GolfR to avoid duplicating.


- LED lights in door mirrors light, even in close:

Modules 42 and 52 -> Coding -> Byte 01 -> Bit 5 deactivated

- DRL off when lights switch on position "0", but on when "AUTO":

Module 09 -> Security Access enabled -> Adaptation -> search for "ENG115734" and change to inactive

- DLR option to switch on/off from menu (independent from above tweak):

Module 09 -> Security Access enabled -> Adaptation -> search for "ENG116594" and select from dropdown "Außenlicht_Front-Tagfahrlicht Aktivierung durch BAP oder Bedienfolge moeglich" -> change to active

Now you can go to Car Setup menu and you'll find extra tick to enable/disable DLRs.

- Refuel quantity on AID as one of Driving data options:

Module 17 -> Coding -> Byte 10 -> Bit 4 activated

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/1zdy4h-3.jpg

- Fan speed indicator (leds around button) when in AUTO mode:

Module 08 -> Coding -> Byte 11 -> Bit 6 activated

- Disable "ingnition on" alarm, when drivers door open:

Module 17 -> Adaptation -> search for "ignition" and select "actuator should appear as the only entry" from list -> change to "No display"

- Changing "blink" number on comfort blinkers:

Module 09 -> Security Access -> Adaptation -> select "Turn Signal Controls-Komfortblinken Blinkzykien" -> change between 1 and 5

- Gauge/Needle sweep on AID

Module 17 -> Coding -> Byte 01 -> Bit 00 activated

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/03/33ct1te-3.jpg

- "beep" when lock and unlock car doors

Module 09 -> Security Access -> Adaptation -> search for "acknowledgement" and depending what you want, select active or inactive for available options with "Akustische" in descriptionI tried to change to the "gold display", but cannot access "adaptations" in module 17 with vcds. http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/afb2390cf316f58fac7d1cfe7eae743e-1.jpg

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NZ_GolfR
22-08-2017, 08:39 PM
I enabled the 360 camera feature today. Pretty neat. Check out thevideo:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/hhwCUR1k0Wg

How about that, I already had this enabled on my car yet never knew it was there [emoji28] Guess I am still finding new features even 8 months down the track!


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Eyes24
22-08-2017, 08:46 PM
How about that, I already had this enabled on my car yet never knew it was there [emoji28] Guess I am still finding new features even 8 months down the track!


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Will that be on the new my18 ?


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TheTig
22-08-2017, 09:28 PM
Will that be on the new my18 ?


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Just checked mine and have the 360 deg view, didn't realise it was there either

Eyes24
22-08-2017, 09:31 PM
Just checked mine and have the 360 deg view, didn't realise it was there either

Very cool, did u have to enable it?


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NZ_GolfR
22-08-2017, 09:35 PM
Very cool, did u have to enable it?


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No. I think if you have the Discover Pro and Area View then it is turned on by default. I know Hugo_nz has the Discover Media so this tweak might just be for that head unit.


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veew
22-08-2017, 09:47 PM
I enabled the 360 camera feature today. Pretty neat. Check out thevideo:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/hhwCUR1k0Wg

Awesome!

zzc2010
23-08-2017, 01:38 AM
So far mine has shown 2 signs. I drive pretty much the same routes every day so never really get the chance to drive past different signs.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/09cc9b95074c88a6852fd781d2c2fdd0-1.jpg



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It looks like we all need new A5 module firmware to solve all the issues of TJA TSR

Ozsko
23-08-2017, 10:51 AM
It looks like we all need new A5 module firmware to solve all the issues of TJA TSR

In discussions I have had with others that seems to be the consensus. I have also learned in the last day that TJA is being raised more and more as a discussion point in dealers showrooms.

sharp
23-08-2017, 12:12 PM
It looks like we all need new A5 module firmware to solve all the issues of TJA TSR

I think there's no need to jump the gun yet. As far as I know no one has tried to duplicate Hugo's long coding and adaptation channels on an older firmware. I still believe they will work on older firmwares for TJA. Because TJA is not new and shouldn't be only active in the latest firmware.

Hugo, I messaged you my email address. Can you please send me the back up of your A5 module. Looks like I have to give it a go with my limited knowledge.

hoola
23-08-2017, 03:05 PM
Hi Sharp, Hugo,

Might want to have a look at Module 44 long coding and adaptations as well. This is the steering assist module and i found some long coding differences between EU and Australian Tiguans with DAP.


I think there's no need to jump the gun yet. As far as I know no one has tried to duplicate Hugo's long coding and adaptation channels on an older firmware. I still believe they will work on older firmwares for TJA. Because TJA is not new and shouldn't be only active in the latest firmware.

Hugo, I messaged you my email address. Can you please send me the back up of your A5 module. Looks like I have to give it a go with my limited knowledge.

NZ_GolfR
23-08-2017, 03:07 PM
I think there's no need to jump the gun yet. As far as I know no one has tried to duplicate Hugo's long coding and adaptation channels on an older firmware. I still believe they will work on older firmwares for TJA. Because TJA is not new and shouldn't be only active in the latest firmware.

Hugo, I messaged you my email address. Can you please send me the back up of your A5 module. Looks like I have to give it a go with my limited knowledge.

If you can send me a copy of your A5 module as well as module 44 I will have a look and see what I can work out as well.


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sharp
23-08-2017, 03:52 PM
If you can send me a copy of your A5 module as well as module 44 I will have a look and see what I can work out as well.


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Will do it tonight. Msg me your email too.

Ozsko
23-08-2017, 05:11 PM
I have just received an email from a dealer saying that the cars now arriving have got TJA activated. As there seems to be some conflict about this I am going to go and drive a new Adventure and confirm that it is. I am just waiting for confirmation that the car has been PD'd so I can do that.

sharp
23-08-2017, 08:17 PM
Will do it tonight. Msg me your email too.

NZ_GolfR,

Done. I messaged you my backups of modules 5A, 13 and 44.

Did you get any back ups from Hugo? I haven't.

Hoola,

Are you interested in TJA? Do you want to have a look at my backups too?

jbaldy
23-08-2017, 09:14 PM
I enabled the 360 camera feature today. Pretty neat. Check out thevideo:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/hhwCUR1k0Wg

Nice!

What’s the coding?


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zzc2010
23-08-2017, 11:44 PM
In discussions I have had with others that seems to be the consensus. I have also learned in the last day that TJA is being raised more and more as a discussion point in dealers showrooms.

I will probably go to dealer straight and tell them the lane assist is working badly then ask if there is any update on the camera or lane assist system to improve.

Finger crossed

zzc2010
23-08-2017, 11:46 PM
I think there's no need to jump the gun yet. As far as I know no one has tried to duplicate Hugo's long coding and adaptation channels on an older firmware. I still believe they will work on older firmwares for TJA. Because TJA is not new and shouldn't be only active in the latest firmware.

Hugo, I messaged you my email address. Can you please send me the back up of your A5 module. Looks like I have to give it a go with my limited knowledge.

I tried it and never get the same long coding man.

Not the coding from Hugo but one from Europe and TJA activated Tiguan firmware 0271

Tell me hows your go

Hugo_nz
24-08-2017, 04:22 AM
Sorry folks had a full on day yesterday. Will do the backups sometime today.


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Hugo_nz
26-08-2017, 05:25 AM
Nice!

What’s the coding?


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Long coding
Control unit: 6C Camera System Rear View
Values:
3D_Presentation:
Old value: Off
New value: On


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NZ_GolfR
26-08-2017, 03:09 PM
Just did a bit more playing around today after reading some of the Golf 7.5 forums and found you can change the AID display to look like the new Golf GTI (without the red lines):

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/fd377201507cbf87434b8f57835a3387-1.jpg

Or the Golf R (notice the 320kmh limit!!):

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/4f773c9a889038d7eaf356fd1f51d0b7-1.jpg

It is under Dash Board (17) - Adaptation - Tube_version (all the way at the bottom on the list)
Variant_2 is the default
Variant_3 is the GTI
Variant_4 is the R


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veew
26-08-2017, 04:45 PM
Just did a bit more playing around today after reading some of the Golf 7.5 forums and found you can change the AID display to look like the new Golf GTI (without the red lines):

It is under Dash Board (09) - Adaptation - Tube_version (all the way at the bottom on the list)
Variant_2 is the default
Variant_3 is the GTI
Variant_4 is the R



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jbaldy
26-08-2017, 04:57 PM
Sorry folks had a full on day yesterday. Will do the backups sometime today.


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With the activation of the WiFi what do you think the reality is of Wireless CarPlay & Android Auto?


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Hugo_nz
26-08-2017, 04:59 PM
With the activation of the WiFi what do you think the reality is of Wireless CarPlay & Android Auto?


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None for Apple Car Play at least. I believe BMW has exclusivity on that.


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jbaldy
26-08-2017, 05:00 PM
None for Apple Car Play at least. I believe BMW has exclusivity on that.


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Well...

Apple Blocked Volkswagen From Showing Wireless CarPlay at CES – News – Car | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/apple-blocked-volkswagen-from-demonstrating-wireless-carplay-at-ces/)




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Hugo_nz
26-08-2017, 05:01 PM
Well...

Apple Blocked Volkswagen From Showing Wireless CarPlay at CES – News – Car | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/apple-blocked-volkswagen-from-demonstrating-wireless-carplay-at-ces/)




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It’s no so much up to VW as it is Harman, who builds the infotainment systems.


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jbaldy
26-08-2017, 05:03 PM
It’s no so much up to VW as it is Harman, who builds the infotainment systems.


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Fair call!

What have you been able to achieve with your wifi thus far?

I have done all your mods so far and [emoji108]


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NZ_GolfR
26-08-2017, 05:48 PM
OMG that is awesome!



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I thought so too!! I really liked the look of the AID layout on the new Golf R so am glad have been able to find out how to replicate it.

You can even combine it with the Display Depiction modification to give it the orange colour as well:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/226f458313b2d22c3f049c3b12e0cd75-1.jpg


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NZ_GolfR
26-08-2017, 06:14 PM
Also if anyone is interested I found that if you have electronic seats you can turn on the Easy Entry/Easy Exit function:

Seat Adjustment Driver Side (36) - Coding - Easy_Entry_front - Change to Active

This will slide the seat all the way back when you turn the car off to allow you to get it out and then when you get back in and turn the car on it slides forward to the saved position.

veew
26-08-2017, 07:18 PM
I'll update the OP over the next few days, keep up the good work with all the tweaks guys!

ADDIT: OP now updated

artful
26-08-2017, 08:49 PM
I thought so too!! I really liked the look of the AID layout on the new Golf R so am glad have been able to find out how to replicate it.

You can even combine it with the Display Depiction modification to give it the orange colour as well:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/226f458313b2d22c3f049c3b12e0cd75-1.jpg


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Hi NZ_GolfR,
Just try it on my VCDS i can't find it anywhere in VCDS. Do you know where should i look out?

veew
26-08-2017, 09:23 PM
I've done Light Assist and Traffic Updates for the moment, both are working great :)

Just clarifying, did you follow the Light Assist instructions from NZ_GolfR's PDF?

Also just looking through my Mk7 Golf bookmarks VCDS folder, found one site that had Tiguan specific mods as well:
stemei.de .Fahrzeugcodierungen .Codierungsservice .Webdesign - Stefan Meier - VW Tiguan II AD - Fahrzeug Codierungen, Webdesign (https://www.stemei.de/pages/coding/vw-tiguan-ii-ad.php)

lm_jo
27-08-2017, 06:46 PM
I thought so too!! I really liked the look of the AID layout on the new Golf R so am glad have been able to find out how to replicate it.

You can even combine it with the Display Depiction modification to give it the orange colour as well:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/226f458313b2d22c3f049c3b12e0cd75-1.jpg


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I just did mine.http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/c202c31f3a2a35bcbd7629c39aeb467a-1.jpg

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Regdop
27-08-2017, 08:18 PM
I'm also in Brisbane and would be keen to know if there are any members here that would be able to help with the VCDS tweaks, once our car arrives.

PM me... I have an OBD11 dongle now and have had a few successes!... I could help you out perhaps.

sharp
27-08-2017, 08:34 PM
Thanks NZ_GolfR. This looks amazing.

I just did mine.http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/c202c31f3a2a35bcbd7629c39aeb467a-1.jpg

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Looks really cool. How did you get the blue lines?

NZ_GolfR
27-08-2017, 08:50 PM
Looks really cool. How did you get the blue lines?

The Blue lines are the default setting when you change to Variant_4 as that ties in with the Golf R colouring. If you change the Depiction setting then it goes to the orange/gold colouring.

lm_jo
27-08-2017, 09:02 PM
Looks really cool. How did you get the blue lines?As NZ_GolfR said, Variant_4 and blue is default.

Combined with the "consumption and range" view.

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Regdop
27-08-2017, 09:20 PM
So far mine has shown 2 signs. I drive pretty much the same routes every day so never really get the chance to drive past different signs.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/09cc9b95074c88a6852fd781d2c2fdd0-1.jpg



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Im sure Ive seen photos here on the forum with the speed signs showing up above the main display, on the right side of the clock. Is there a setting somewhere ive missed?

NZ_GolfR
27-08-2017, 10:03 PM
Im sure Ive seen photos here on the forum with the speed signs showing up above the main display, on the right side of the clock. Is there a setting somewhere ive missed?

No, if you have the main display showing something else (speed, navigation, music etc) then it moves the speed sign Display up the top next to the clock:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/6895c7adf14acd1d192ad366faa98b6c-1.jpg

Turning the Traffic Sign Recognition on give you the ability to also be able to view it in the main screen under where you can choose from your speed, oil temp, usage etc which is what you saw in Hugo_nz image.



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Regdop
27-08-2017, 10:53 PM
No, if you have the main display showing something else (speed, navigation, music etc) then it moves the speed sign Display up the top next to the clock:

Turning the Traffic Sign Recognition on give you the ability to also be able to view it in the main screen under where you can choose from your speed, oil temp, usage etc which is what you saw in Hugo_nz image.



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Ah.... that makes sense.... cheers!

zzc2010
27-08-2017, 11:53 PM
No, if you have the main display showing something else (speed, navigation, music etc) then it moves the speed sign Display up the top next to the clock:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/6895c7adf14acd1d192ad366faa98b6c-1.jpg

Turning the Traffic Sign Recognition on give you the ability to also be able to view it in the main screen under where you can choose from your speed, oil temp, usage etc which is what you saw in Hugo_nz image.



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Hi

Do you have any ideas why I'm getting signs with white square surroundings instead of pure sign with the red circle?

Cheers

NZ_GolfR
28-08-2017, 05:17 AM
Hi

Do you have any ideas why I'm getting signs with white square surroundings instead of pure sign with the red circle?

Cheers

Not sure, can you post up a picture of what you are getting?


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GolfR79
28-08-2017, 06:10 PM
Hi NZ_GolfR,
Just try it on my VCDS i can't find it anywhere in VCDS. Do you know where should i look out?

Hey NZ_GolfR i am the same as artful... using VCDS and I can not find this mod adaption anywhere. Is it possible you could provide more specific info to help us VCDS users out? Cheers

NZ_GolfR
29-08-2017, 06:49 AM
Hey NZ_GolfR i am the same as artful... using VCDS and I can not find this mod adaption anywhere. Is it possible you could provide more specific info to help us VCDS users out? Cheers

Sorry but I don't have VCDS so I can't check the settings in there. Can you send through a list of adaption channels you can see in that module under VCDS and I will see if anything matches?


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GolfR79
29-08-2017, 08:35 AM
[QUOTE=NZ_GolfR;1239865]Sorry but I don't have VCDS so I can't check the settings in there. Can you send through a list of adaption channels you can see in that module under VCDS and I will see if anything matches?

Thanks NZ_GolfR, for VCDS users module 9 is titled Cent. Elect. below is the screenshot from the drop down list of adaptions starting from the top.
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NZ_GolfR
29-08-2017, 08:40 AM
[QUOTE=NZ_GolfR;1239865]Sorry but I don't have VCDS so I can't check the settings in there. Can you send through a list of adaption channels you can see in that module under VCDS and I will see if anything matches?

Thanks NZ_GolfR, for VCDS users module 9 is titled Cent. Elect. below is the screenshot from the drop down list of adaptions starting from the top.
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Sorry, my mistake it is under the Dash Board module which is module 17 (not 9 like I had said). Have a look and see if you can see the adaption listed under there.

I will edit my original post with the correct module number.


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zzc2010
29-08-2017, 09:28 AM
Not sure, can you post up a picture of what you are getting?


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https://lpqsqq.by3301.livefilestore.com/y4pi6THVgW2XO_rrqXyb3mIQTARkQfSMMAme5beoC77LPJJeMt QRODnAX0OtAvjtR9OdIT0I9dA-fPi5RSFno59BFV68bD3XAyDjK-eg55A91lB9a4CKpost85eNP832hGMzftRCH0M3kkIwrfwJlUMr 2rgUiXWmwHvtgufvGa9hudDQhk9luNBf3GlNW-KhE0NMKe1fZdVyY7X3mVqvBdcYA/IMG_8633.JPG?psid=1

Thats what im getting in my AID

NZ_GolfR
29-08-2017, 09:44 AM
https://lpqsqq.by3301.livefilestore.com/y4pi6THVgW2XO_rrqXyb3mIQTARkQfSMMAme5beoC77LPJJeMt QRODnAX0OtAvjtR9OdIT0I9dA-fPi5RSFno59BFV68bD3XAyDjK-eg55A91lB9a4CKpost85eNP832hGMzftRCH0M3kkIwrfwJlUMr 2rgUiXWmwHvtgufvGa9hudDQhk9luNBf3GlNW-KhE0NMKe1fZdVyY7X3mVqvBdcYA/IMG_8633.JPG?psid=1

Thats what im getting in my AID

Can you try posting that again as there is no image showing.

veew
29-08-2017, 02:39 PM
Have had the car for 24hrs and the stop-start is so annoying! First OBD2 mod will be disabling it!
Can't wait to do all the other things I've been waiting to do, thanks to those who have confirmed/discovered these tweaks!

GeeMoney
29-08-2017, 02:43 PM
Have had the car for 24hrs and the stop-start is so annoying! First OBD2 mod will be disabling it!
Can't wait to do all the other things I've been waiting to do, thanks to those who have confirmed/discovered these tweaks!

Does it have TJA?

Adz11
29-08-2017, 04:27 PM
Not sure if anyone can help on this, I'm assuming we all have front assist. Mine has a big orange warning when are car has pulled out or suddenly stoped now I thought the car was supposed to brake for you also but I'm pretty sure mine didn't. Is this not a standard feature with front assist and if not can it be coded in.

veew
29-08-2017, 04:35 PM
Does it have TJA?

Will let you know when I get a chance to test it out later today

cabby09
29-08-2017, 04:43 PM
Can you try posting that again as there is no image showing.

Great looking mod... Screen looks much better in varient 4. However in Offroad view the tyre angle in a bit weird. The picture of the tyre isnt there... Just the degrees. Is it the same in yours?

zzc2010
30-08-2017, 03:15 AM
Can you try posting that again as there is no image showing.

Another try

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NZ_GolfR
30-08-2017, 05:44 AM
Another try

30241

Strange, what does it look like if you display the speed sign in the main display window of the AID?


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veew
30-08-2017, 06:42 AM
Does it have TJA?

Unfortunately my MY18 cat doesn't have TJA and more annoying for me, ALG.


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GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 07:24 AM
Unfortunately my MY18 cat doesn't have TJA and more annoying for me, ALG.


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Ok, so now in my opinion we can be clear on this. The MY18 does not have TJA enabled by default.
ALG can be enabled with VCDS, look up this topic for it, it has been done many times abd works. Except TJA, some are still investigating the long coding on this but no luck on that yet.

Lindsay
30-08-2017, 07:27 AM
Another try

30241

That is what an Australian road sign looks like. New Zealand signs do not have the white rectangular background

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/abc984e000fec1687d6ca90a05e8473cpng-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/30316010edfbd0e38767cda1a0a46a7e-1.jpg


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gorey
30-08-2017, 08:24 AM
That's strange that the MY18's don't have ALG either. Really seems like they are holding these features back for when sales start to slow, then perhaps release them for MY19.


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veew
30-08-2017, 05:33 PM
Frick me, my new Lenovo tab 3 7" doesn't see my home wifi! Tried over the last couple days different things with no luck. Connects to my phone hotspot fine however the Play store can't get internet that way. Gonna have to return the tablet and see what I'm going to do


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GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 05:40 PM
Frick me, my new Lenovo tab 3 7" doesn't see my home wifi! Tried over the last couple days different things with no luck. Connects to my phone hotspot fine however the Play store can't get internet that way. Gonna have to return the tablet and see what I'm going to do


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Maybe your home Wi-Fi uses the 5Ghz bandwith? Check your router/modem device if that's the case and try to enable older techniques?
It does connect to your phone as a hotspot so the chip should be fine.

GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 06:40 PM
I got a VCDS output from a Audi A3 with from the A5 module:



Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels: 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 G HW: 3Q0 980 654
Component: MQB_B_MFK H06 0231
Coding: 0403070300000401012223448048A90098000E200080
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB.rod
VCID: 3B203F9DE3EC5E1F38B-806E

NZ_GolfR
30-08-2017, 08:40 PM
I got a VCDS output from a Audi A3 with from the A5 module:



Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels: 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 G HW: 3Q0 980 654
Component: MQB_B_MFK H06 0231
Coding: 0403070300000401012223448048A90098000E200080
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB.rod
VCID: 3B203F9DE3EC5E1F38B-806E


Thanks, can definitely see some differences in the long coding. Any chance you can get a copy of the adaption channels as well?

GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 08:54 PM
Thanks, can definitely see some differences in the long coding. Any chance you can get a copy of the adaption channels as well?

Asking for it right away.
Any chance you can test with these long codings?

Adz11
30-08-2017, 09:17 PM
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAzI7iBaavfq7TzbE7ltzvP1U1iERltgy)

This is guy has done a few cool tweeks.

GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 09:23 PM
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAzI7iBaavfq7TzbE7ltzvP1U1iERltgy)

This is guy has done a few cool tweeks.

I believe most of them are already in this topic. (beep lock/unlock, rear drl lights, video in motion etc.)

veew
30-08-2017, 09:37 PM
Had the tablet replaced for a new one. Same issue, doesn't recognise both my home normal and 5GHz wifi. Bit reluctant to buy a more expensive tablet considering it is only going to be used for the OBD2 dongle.
Anyone else have the D-link 2900AL modem/router?

GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 09:41 PM
Had the tablet replaced for a new one. Same issue, doesn't recognise both my home normal and 5GHz wifi. Bit reluctant to buy a more expensive tablet considering it is only going to be used for the OBD2 dongle.
Anyone else have the D-link 2900AL modem/router?

Is the D-link using auto-channels or did you have them configured manually?
Could be that it's using a channel that the tablet does not recognize depending on it's original region.
Can you download a wi-fi scan app or something on the tablet?
As it can be online using your mobile phone as a hot-spot, maybe you can have your mobile phone connect to your wi-fi at home and then share through BT the wi-fi to the tablet?

NZ_GolfR
30-08-2017, 10:00 PM
Asking for it right away.
Any chance you can test with these long codings?

I have gone through and compared the long codes between the A3, Sharp's Tig and my Tig as well. Most of the differences are explained by the different make, model, type and origin of car as well as different features like TSR and Light Assist being enabled. There are only a couple differences left that I can tell exactly what they are. At this stage not too keen to randomly enable long coding without seeing coding from a Tiguan with TJA working as it is a bit too risky copying from an A3. I also think there will be some differences in the Adaption Channels as well that will need to be compared first.

On a side note, the hardware version (H06) is the same for them all and both the A3 and Sharp's are running same software version (0231). Mine on the other hand is running 0271, which is the same as Hugo_nz.

Hugo_nz, any chance you can send through a copy of your backups of module A5 and 44 for me to have a look at?

GeeMoney
30-08-2017, 10:11 PM
I have gone through and compared the long codes between the A3, Sharp's Tig and my Tig as well. Most of the differences are explained by the different make, model, type and origin of car as well as different features like TSR and Light Assist being enabled. There are only a couple differences left that I can tell exactly what they are. At this stage not too keen to randomly enable long coding without seeing coding from a Tiguan with TJA working as it is a bit too risky copying from an A3. I also think there will be some differences in the Adaption Channels as well that will need to be compared first.

On a side note, the hardware version (H06) is the same for them all and both the A3 and Sharp's are running same software version (0231). Mine on the other hand is running 0271, which is the same as Hugo_nz.

Hugo_nz, any chance you can send through a copy of your backups of module A5 and 44 for me to have a look at?

Ok, i've asked for the adaptation channels. As soon as they come in, I will send them to you. (by personal message or through this topic?)
I don't know anyone with a working TJA on a Tiguan, any chance there is someone on this forum?
Otherwise I can ask my dealer if he has a Tiguan with TJA and borrow that one for a test spin :P . But this will take a lot of time as I don't have the tools to collect the long codings stuff so I need to arrange with other people.

NZ_GolfR
30-08-2017, 10:30 PM
Ok, i've asked for the adaptation channels. As soon as they come in, I will send them to you. (by personal message or through this topic?)
I don't know anyone with a working TJA on a Tiguan, any chance there is someone on this forum?
Otherwise I can ask my dealer if he has a Tiguan with TJA and borrow that one for a test spin :P . But this will take a lot of time as I don't have the tools to collect the long codings stuff so I need to arrange with other people.

You can PM me with them if you want. Hugo_nz has got TJA on his after the dealer did an update so hoping he can send me through a copy of his scans when he can.


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zzc2010
31-08-2017, 12:05 AM
Strange, what does it look like if you display the speed sign in the main display window of the AID?


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Would you please tell me how to do that?

I usually just get the nav screen

zzc2010
31-08-2017, 12:07 AM
That is what an Australian road sign looks like. New Zealand signs do not have the white rectangular background

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/abc984e000fec1687d6ca90a05e8473cpng-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/30316010edfbd0e38767cda1a0a46a7e-1.jpg


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Oh thanks!

So that looks ugly to me with the white

TSR does know australian signs huh

veew
31-08-2017, 06:48 AM
Is the D-link using auto-channels or did you have them configured manually?
Could be that it's using a channel that the tablet does not recognize depending on it's original region.
Can you download a wi-fi scan app or something on the tablet?


Will have a look before returning it. Cheers


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NZ_GolfR
31-08-2017, 06:56 AM
Will have a look before returning it. Cheers


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My suggestion is to login to the modem and look at the wifi settings and if the channel is set to auto for the 2.4Ghz try changing it to 6 or 7. I have seen it where if the channel is set too high or low some wifi modules can't see it properly. Channel 6 or 7 is pretty safe channel that everything should be able to see.


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veew
31-08-2017, 10:21 PM
My suggestion is to login to the modem and look at the wifi settings and if the channel is set to auto for the 2.4Ghz try changing it to 6 or 7. I have seen it where if the channel is set too high or low some wifi modules can't see it properly. Channel 6 or 7 is pretty safe channel that everything should be able to see.
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You sir are a bloody champ, it worked! I can finally deactivate the wretched auto stop/start!

Addit: Well that was premature, downloaded the app via the email but now the tablet can't open it. Is it because I've already downloaded it on the old tablet?
Addit again: Looks like the Google Play store had the program I had installed last time. Came up as "Car Diagnostics Pro VAG OBD2" by Voltas IT. Hopefully this is the actual program and not some trojan. Will see tomorrow morning.

GeeMoney
31-08-2017, 10:30 PM
You sir are a bloody champ, it worked! I can finally deactivate the wretched auto stop/start!

Hey, I did the suggestion earlier :P just kiddin ;)

Brobbe
02-09-2017, 07:04 PM
Me and my girlfriend use different keys with our own driverprofiles/settings. Is it possible to do some coding, to activate memory for the door mirrors. It would be nice if they adjusts automatic, depending on driver/profile.

Sorry for my bad english.

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IsDon
02-09-2017, 09:41 PM
Me and my girlfriend use different keys with our own driverprofiles/settings. Is it possible to do some coding, to activate memory for the door mirrors. It would be nice if they adjusts automatic, depending on driver/profile.

Sorry for my bad english.

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They already do this automatically.

Brobbe
02-09-2017, 09:55 PM
They already do this automatically.Not on my car. :(

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IsDon
02-09-2017, 10:47 PM
Try this.

Get your keys.
Opening the door from locked "should" then set the seat and side mirrors to "your" last setting.
If it doesn't then set the seat and mirrors to where you want them. Start the car and ensure you are listed as the driver in the driver profile.
Using the procedure in the manual, then use the buttons on the seat to assign these settings to one of the presets. You should hear a chime if you've done this correctly.
Now get out of your car and lock it.
Get your G/Fs keys.
Open the door and, once again, it should set the seat and mirrors to her settings. If it doesn't go through the exact same process as per above to set her settings to a preset on the seat buttons.
Then get out and lock the car with her key.
Open it up with your keys and it should now go to your settings.
One thing I've noticed with the VW that is different to my Audi, that I'd been familiar with, is that the memory function doesn't seem to work unless the car had been previously locked. If a new driver opens the door without it being actually locked first it doesn't register the second driver.
Pushing the preset button on the seat though will set the seat and mirrors to the setting associated with that preset.
During all of this only have one key on you at any time. Put one key some distance away while doing this process with the other key. If the car sees two keys it will get all confused as it won't know which one to reference.
I had issues with my drivers seat not remembering settings. A VCDS scan revealed that it was missing its basic initialisation settings. Doing this initialisation process with VCDS didn't help. It wouldn't keep the settings.
I took the car to the dealer and they had the same problem. They had to do a firmware update of the convenience module. They said there was a bulletin out about it and they had seen this problem before.
Only other thing I can think of is to make sure you're not missing something in the driver convenience settings. I'm in Dubai at the moment and can't check it for you.


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Brobbe
02-09-2017, 11:53 PM
Try this.

Get your keys.
Opening the door from locked "should" then set the seat and side mirrors to "your" last setting.
If it doesn't then set the seat and mirrors to where you want them. Start the car and ensure you are listed as the driver in the driver profile.
Using the procedure in the manual, then use the buttons on the seat to assign these settings to one of the presets. You should hear a chime if you've done this correctly.
Now get out of your car and lock it.
Get your G/Fs keys.
Open the door and, once again, it should set the seat and mirrors to her settings. If it doesn't go through the exact same process as per above to set her settings to a preset on the seat buttons.
Then get out and lock the car with her key.
Open it up with your keys and it should now go to your settings.
One thing I've noticed with the VW that is different to my Audi, that I'd been familiar with, is that the memory function doesn't seem to work unless the car had been previously locked. If a new driver opens the door without it being actually locked first it doesn't register the second driver.
Pushing the preset button on the seat though will set the seat and mirrors to the setting associated with that preset.
During all of this only have one key on you at any time. Put one key some distance away while doing this process with the other key. If the car sees two keys it will get all confused as it won't know which one to reference.
I had issues with my drivers seat not remembering settings. A VCDS scan revealed that it was missing its basic initialisation settings. Doing this initialisation process with VCDS didn't help. It wouldn't keep the settings.
I took the car to the dealer and they had the same problem. They had to do a firmware update of the convenience module. They said there was a bulletin out about it and they had seen this problem before.
Only other thing I can think of is to make sure you're not missing something in the driver convenience settings. I'm in Dubai at the moment and can't check it for you.


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veew
03-09-2017, 05:58 PM
Just wondering how long it usually takes to get stuff changed on the OBDeleven app.

I've finally gotten around to getting the tablet connected etc.
Detected 1 fault, it is taking in excess of 30 minutes to clear - still going so far but I'm going to pull the plug very soon.
I have full Wifi bars on my tablet, internet at my place is more than adequate.

Was hoping it would be a couple minutes each. At this rate it will take me forever to do all the tweaks I want.

NZ_GolfR
03-09-2017, 06:17 PM
Just wondering how long it usually takes to get stuff changed on the OBDeleven app.

I've finally gotten around to getting the tablet connected etc.
Detected 1 fault, it is taking in excess of 10 minutes to clear - still going so far.
I have full Wifi bars on my tablet and internet at my place is more than adequate.

Was hoping it would be a couple minutes each. At this rate it will take me forever to do all the tweaks I want.

It should be pretty much straight away. If it has taken that long then I would say the app has hung. I would just close out of the app fully then open and reconnect to your car and try it again.


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Hole46
03-09-2017, 07:33 PM
Tried this tweak on my Tig and it worked:
Screen nag (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/vcds-vag-com-codes-programmable-options-golf-mk7-84619-post1120726.html#post1120726)

Does anyone know how to do this with obd eleven?


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Jap
03-09-2017, 08:42 PM
Just did a bit more playing around today after reading some of the Golf 7.5 forums and found you can change the AID display to look like the new Golf GTI (without the red lines):

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/fd377201507cbf87434b8f57835a3387-1.jpg

Or the Golf R (notice the 320kmh limit!!):

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/08/4f773c9a889038d7eaf356fd1f51d0b7-1.jpg

It is under Dash Board (17) - Adaptation - Tube_version (all the way at the bottom on the list)
Variant_2 is the default
Variant_3 is the GTI
Variant_4 is the R


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Edited to correct the module number.can I ask was that from my thread?

also did a bit more playing just now as after I installed my RVC my car play stopped working, so popped out the mmi, all connections ok, went into obd11 and looked at infotainment, long coding, byte 19, as changed bit 4 to ticked, enabled all the bits one by one and found that bit 6 is power to the USB and bit 7 is data lines (maybe what it's called?) to USB, as when I clicked bit 6 the phone stopped charging and when I clicked bit 7 the car play detected phone and asked if I wanted to connect

dunno if that's any use to anyone

also looked in rear view camera for 3D but it wasn't there

Jap
03-09-2017, 08:54 PM
Does anyone know how to do this with obd eleven?


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well, if you go to long coding in the info module at the top right you should see a little black/white box with 0 &1 in it, press that, then you should be presented with a long number like this 027310010000000051110102008808001F0900E6012004009F Going across the screen, every 2 numbers are a byte, so if you press the green right arrow it should go across 2 digits at a time, (under the long number to the left you should see what byte your on) move across to 23, then there should be a list of bits going down the screen with box's next to them, if any of the boxes are filled that means that bit is selected, if you want 00 then deselect any boxes that are filled and press and hold the green tick, then the 2 digits in the long coding at the top should change to 00 (take a note of your old number just in case it goes wrong), then you are done

spamm_ed
03-09-2017, 10:53 PM
Any idea how to change the ESC button function? At the moment it is ESC On / ASR off / ESC Sport.

I want to try and change it to ESC On / ESC Sport / ESC Off.

DV52
03-09-2017, 11:22 PM
Does anyone know how to do this with obd eleven?


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Like this:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/09/0GwpepVpng-1.jpg

Don

Jap
03-09-2017, 11:32 PM
Don, don't suppose you could send me your long codings for A5 and 13 could you?

DV52
03-09-2017, 11:35 PM
Any idea how to change the ESC button function? At the moment it is ESC On / ASR off / ESC Sport.

I want to try and change it to ESC On / ESC Sport / ESC Off.


suggestion removed

spamm_ed
04-09-2017, 12:15 AM
VCDS

03 - ABS Brakes

07- Coding

(Long Coding Helper) Byte 29:

06 - ESC ON/ESC Sport/ESC OFF

Don

Hi Don,
I've read that on other forums too but would that still apply to the new Tiguan?
This is what I have at the moment:

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DV52
04-09-2017, 01:17 AM
Hi Don,
I've read that on other forums too but would that still apply to the new Tiguan?
This is what I have at the moment:

30301


hmm........ perhaps not! On the mk 7, the default value of Byte 29 for the ABS module is hex09 which in binary is 0000 1001. This means that Bit0 and Bit3 is set in the lower nibble.

On your car, Byte 29 has the value hexAA which in binary is 1010 1010. This means that Bit1 and Bit3 is set in the lower nibble.

For my money, the Bit bit structure looks too different to risk experimenting - especially since we are dealing with a module that is involved in the car's safety. Better to wait until someone figures this out - I think

Don

PS I will remove my suggestion - lest it prompt an unsuspecting colleague

Hole46
04-09-2017, 06:50 AM
Like this:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/09/0GwpepVpng-1.jpg

Don

Thanks for the tutorial Jap & DV52, I'll give it a go later. I've only had my obd11 for a couple of days, and I'm still on a steep learning curve.


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veew
04-09-2017, 07:52 AM
I'm still on a steep learning curve.
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Same, finally got it working! Yayy, tablet connected to my phone via Wifi and dongle via BT. Did a few tweaks which seemed to stick. Finally the stop/start has been deactivated!

Regdop
04-09-2017, 11:37 AM
Hi Guys,
Jut wanted thank DV52, IsDon and NZ GolfR for al the help they have given me as a newbie OBD11 user. With their responses to my questions I have successfully.
Turned off stop/start
Enabled TMC
Enabled Traffic sign recognition
Disabled safety/legal nag screens

I would also like to thank all the other members for their contributions especially those working on TJA!

cheers
Gary

PS does anyone know how to make my aircon recirc button remember the last setting?

DV52
04-09-2017, 06:56 PM
Don, don't suppose you could send me your long codings for A5 and 13 could you?

Jap : from a 2017 Tiggy Highline Rline (Aussie)

Don





A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist

SW:3Q0-980-654-G HW:3Q0-980-654
Component:MQB_B_MFK H06 0231
Coding:000307060000010100022346C050490084000E20000 0






13-Auto Dist. Reg

SW:2Q0-907-572-J HW:2Q0-907-572-B
Component:ACCCONTIMQB H01 0156
Coding:320047C358FF8428749C8065303085

Jap
04-09-2017, 07:23 PM
Jap : from a 2017 Tiggy Highline Rline (Aussie)

Don





A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist

SW:3Q0-980-654-G HW:3Q0-980-654
Component:MQB_B_MFK H06 0231
Coding:000307060000010100022346C050490084000E20000 0






13-Auto Dist. Reg

SW:2Q0-907-572-J HW:2Q0-907-572-B
Component:ACCCONTIMQB H01 0156
Coding:320047C358FF8428749C8065303085



That's great thanks, interesting comparing yours to my UK with TJA

DV52
05-09-2017, 09:34 AM
Jap: I've no doubt that it is interesting, but the more that I correspond with various colleagues (here and other forums), the more convinced I am that retrofitting TJA is not just changed code-string on various control modules.

My hypothesis is that in addition to code/adaptation changes, TJA is "SWAP" (Software as Product) and as such it requires an individual activation code that's specific to the car's VIN - and I susect that there are firware upgrade requirements as well. SWAP is a time honored technique that VAG uses for lots of features in their cars.

But I would be delighted to be proven wrong!

Don

Jap
05-09-2017, 06:25 PM
Couldn't agree more, but it's worth a little look, otherwise we wouldn't have half the mods that people are doing, I also thought about the firmwares when it was posted that one of them was changed to 271, but mine is the same as people's who haven't had it enabled,

NZ_GolfR
05-09-2017, 08:41 PM
Jap: I've no doubt that it is interesting, but the more that I correspond with various colleagues (here and other forums), the more convinced I am that retrofitting TJA is not just changed code-string on various control modules.

My hypothesis is that in addition to code/adaptation changes, TJA is "SWAP" (Software as Product) and as such it requires an individual activation code that's specific to the car's VIN - and I susect that there are firware upgrade requirements as well. SWAP is a time honored technique that VAG uses for lots of features in their cars.

But I would be delighted to be proven wrong!

Don

Hate to say it but I have come to the conclusion that you are correct. Comparing the differences in the coding for Module 13 (ACC) between mine and @Hugo_nz plus the Golf MK7.5 with TJA I am 99.9% sure it is to do with Byte 13 (theirs are set to 40 while non-TJA are set to 30). As soon as I change this on mine I get warning up on the AID saying Front Assist not available and a fault is logged stating "Control module incorrectly coded".

Looking at the coding of Byte 13 and the change that is made by going from 30 (Bit 4 & Bit 5 Enabled Only) to 40 (Bit 6 Enabled Only) it changes SWaP_FSID_group_3 from 3 to 4. To me this says that TJA is in fact a Software as Product (SWAP) upgrade and as such only done by VW.

Jap
06-09-2017, 12:53 AM
And what about byte 6? Did you change that too? Which is to do with front assist and is different in the TJA cars

Jap
09-09-2017, 06:09 AM
Army skodas green to start with?

NZ_GolfR
09-09-2017, 06:21 AM
Army skodas green to start with?

Yes but that is a Tiguan in the photos with the colour change.


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gorey
09-09-2017, 08:40 AM
Has anyone tried to lengthen the 10 second timeout that alerts you to put your hands back on the steering wheel for the ACC functionality. I saw in an Audi forum that there is an adaptation for this which extends the time to around 30 seconds

On the Audi it is this:
Adaptation
Dir. Stab. Assist Driver Inact Deact Threshold
Old Value: Medium
New Value: Late

Not sure if there is anything similar on the Tiguan


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NZ_GolfR
09-09-2017, 11:07 AM
Hello guyz)

Some tweak ported from Skoda Superb mk3

Change color of multimedia and active info display

[VN]_Interior_light_2nd_generation:
[LO]_Instrumententafelbeleuchtung mehrfarbig: [VN]_active


[VN]_Interior_light_lamp_configuration:
[LO]_Ambient_Farbliste_HMI: [VN]_active




[VN]_Ambience_lightning_color_list:or in OBD11 Ambientelicht Farbliste
You can make your own list, it is RGB in dec format
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 1:217
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 1:221
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 1:235
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 2:169
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 2:169
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 2:169
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 3:253
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 3:108
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 3:55
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 4:242
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 4:0
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 4:40
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 5:254
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 5:88
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 5:240
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 6:124
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 6:63
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 6:190
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 7:0
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 7:102
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 7:255
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 8:0
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 8:204
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 8:255
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 9:0
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 9:204
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 9:0
[LO]_Rotwert Farbe 10:136
[LO]_Gruenwert Farbe 10:255
[LO]_Blauwert Farbe 10:57

Look like this
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/09/69dcfd1s960-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/09/c39cad1s960-1.jpg

Just tried this on mine and it works. Next step is to try and match the gold colour for the alternative colour display for for AID for the Infotainment unit colour matches!


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jbaldy
09-09-2017, 03:43 PM
Just tried this on mine and it works. Next step is to try and match the gold colour for the alternative colour display for for AID for the Infotainment unit colour matches!


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What module is this in?


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