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Ozsko
09-09-2016, 11:49 AM
Has anyone found any comparative performance figures for the different motor options? I am about to start the order process and it is either going to be a 162 or a diesel, I have a diesel Superb at the moment BTW. Things have changed now because of using the Audi 7 speed box and I have a feeling that the diesel just got a whole lot better because of it. Even before driving the two I know that the diesel seat of the pants feeling is going to be entirely different to the petrol and doing any sort of comparison especially in suburban areas is just about impossible.

And why has VW not put Traffic Jam Assist in this car, it is the major thing it is lacking! Damn! You have to wonder if it is there but not activated.

NZ_GolfR
09-09-2016, 12:05 PM
What sort of specs are you after?

According to the NZ Brochure the 162TSI has a 0-100km/h acceleration time of 6.5sec and a top speed of 220km/h.

We don't get the 140TDI over here, if we want diesel we have to go with the 110TDI which has a 0-100km/h time of 9.3sec for the 4Motion model and a top speed of 200km/h.


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Ozsko
09-09-2016, 12:28 PM
0-100 of the diesel now you have given me the 162 number, I can't find it as most of the Europeans test the smaller motor. I have just found a video and a roughish time looks like 7 seconds but real numbers would be nice. Thanks.

Ozsko
09-09-2016, 12:58 PM
I have found this what for what it is worth and the time quoted is the same as the petrol....VW Tiguan Now Available With 217hp TSI & 236hp Biturbo TDI Engines (http://www.carscoops.com/2016/08/vw-tiguan-now-available-with-217hp-tsi.html)

The twin-turbo 2.0-litre BiTDI direct-injection engine is the most powerful diesel unit in the segment offering 236hp (240PS) and 368lb ft (500Nm) of torque between 1,750 and 2,500rpm. The top TDI version of the Tiguan is now capable of a 0-62mph (0-100km/h) in 6.5 seconds, with a top speed of 141mph (228km/h).

Sounds good to me, torque everywhere.

Dutch77
09-09-2016, 01:14 PM
.. except Aus is not getting that diesel motor as covered in the general thread.

Sharkie
09-09-2016, 01:24 PM
Big difference performance wise between the 162 and the 140. 140TDI will do 8.6s 0-100km/h which is more than 2s slower. AS speed picks up from there the gap will further widen.

Erster Test: Was kann der neue VW Tiguan? - autobild.de (http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-tiguan-2.0-tdi-2016-test-8881523.html)

EDIT: further down the track if you were to tune them , the TSI will be sub 5s whereas a tuned TDI will still not match a stock TSI.

Ozsko
09-09-2016, 01:24 PM
Ok, where do I get numbers for the motor we are getting?

Dutch77
09-09-2016, 01:27 PM
Ok, where do I get numbers for the motor we are getting?

From the post you just read. :)

Sharkie
09-09-2016, 01:30 PM
From the post you just read. :)

Yes, the link is to a German test of the 140kw TDI

Sharkie
09-09-2016, 01:36 PM
Interestingly the 140TDI is just under 40K Euro which converts to $59K. Not sure if that includes onroads in Germany either.

Ozsko
09-09-2016, 01:58 PM
Thanks guys, it has all turned to poo in the last few minutes anyhow, the 162 is not available until January 2017 and the diesel is released next month. I will drive the 132 this coming week but I am not buying it.

Sharkie
09-09-2016, 02:12 PM
The 132TSI will actually be a bit quicker than the 140TDI .... about 7.7s 0-100 and when chipped sub 5s.

Ozsko
09-09-2016, 02:31 PM
It's as much about the performance as the inclusions. By the time you put all the extras that come in the highline into the comfort line you are line ball with a standard highline. All I have to add to the highline is the DA package and I also get the LED lights which by the brochure I have is the only way to get them but I may be corrected if anyone knows otherwise.

tigger73
11-09-2016, 08:43 AM
Specs for 0-100km/hr data from the German VW site:

110TSI FWD 6Manual (110kW/250Nm): 9.2sec
110TSI FWD 6DSG (110kW/250Nm): 9.2sec
132TSI AWD 7DSG (132kW/320Nm): 7.7sec
162TSI AWD 7DSG (162kW/350Nm): 6.5sec

110TDI AWD 7DSG (110kW/340Nm): 9.3sec
140TDI AWD 7DSG (140kW/400Nm): 7.9sec

..and just in case you're wondering what we're missing out on here (you lucky kiwis):

176TDI AWD 7DSG (176kW/500Nm): 6.5sec

My suggestion is to move to NZ and buy the 176TDI.

Ozsko
11-09-2016, 10:06 AM
The big diesel would be nice but it might get a guernsey later on in the model run. I can't understand the motivation behind the later release of the Highline cars, if the Comfortline had bi-xenon headlights it would not matter so much but those of us who live and drive outside the metro area rely on good headlights. The bi-xenons on my Superb are a fantastic light, better even that the bi-xenons on our Golf performance and I am hoping the LED's at least match them.

NZ_GolfR
11-09-2016, 10:12 AM
Specs for 0-100km/hr data from the German VW site:

110TSI FWD 6Manual (110kW/250Nm): 9.2sec
110TSI FWD 6DSG (110kW/250Nm): 9.2sec
132TSI AWD 7DSG (132kW/320Nm): 7.7sec
162TSI AWD 7DSG (162kW/350Nm): 6.5sec

110TDI AWD 7DSG (110kW/340Nm): 9.3sec
140TDI AWD 7DSG (140kW/400Nm): 7.9sec

..and just in case you're wondering what we're missing out on here (you lucky kiwis):

176TDI AWD 7DSG (176kW/500Nm): 6.5sec

My suggestion is to move to NZ and buy the 176TDI.

We don't get a 176TDI, the only TDI we get is the 110TDI, if we want more power than that we have to go with the 132TSI or 162TSI


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tigger73
11-09-2016, 11:43 AM
The big diesel would be nice but it might get a guernsey later on in the model run. I can't understand the motivation behind the later release of the Highline cars, if the Comfortline had bi-xenon headlights it would not matter so much but those of us who live and drive outside the metro area rely on good headlights. The bi-xenons on my Superb are a fantastic light, better even that the bi-xenons on our Golf performance and I am hoping the LED's at least match them.

I think it's mainly due to availability of production. The 162TSI is only just getting into the production schedule now.

Yes and we have VWA to thank for the fact that upgraded headlights are only available on Highline models. It would be nice to option them onto a Comfortline (and I'm sure quite a few people would) but then they would sell less Highlines ;)

If you're waiting for the 176TDI you could be waiting a long time as it's not rated for hot weather climates. So unless they change the design somehow I doubt we'll see it here unfortunately.


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tigger73
11-09-2016, 02:47 PM
We don't get a 176TDI, the only TDI we get is the 110TDI, if we want more power than that we have to go with the 132TSI or 162TSI


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Ah yes my mistake. Though you do get the 176TDI in the Passat so I'm guessing they may also bring it in the Tiguan at some time in the future. The engine is an option for the Highline in Germany so it's not a big stretch for them to bring it to NZ also.

NZ_GolfR
11-09-2016, 03:32 PM
Ah yes my mistake. Though you do get the 176TDI in the Passat so I'm guessing they may also bring it in the Tiguan at some time in the future. The engine is an option for the Highline in Germany so it's not a big stretch for them to bring it to NZ also.

Yes we do get it in the Passat although the top model TSI R Line is 206kw so they are obviously keeping that range a bit different. They might keep the 176TDI exclusively for the Passat. Then again who knows with VW.


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stark27
06-10-2016, 12:00 PM
176TDI AWD 7DSG (176kW/500Nm): 6.5sec

My suggestion is to move to NZ and buy the 176TDI.

With a tune on the 140TDI, I'm guessing you could hit those figures easily? I had a VW GT Sport with a Bluefin piggyback and got increases similar to that.

GrantRogers
19-11-2016, 09:49 PM
Anyone recommend a place to get the diesel tuned in Sydney?

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