Kodiaq - The new Skoda SUV

[The_Hawk]

Another day another new section for VWWC :D

Sokda's new SUV looks might interesting and now we have a place to talk about it!

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/Skoda-2016-SUV-price-specs-and-release-date-1824

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/Kodaiq_lead_0-1.jpg

[tigger73]

Another interesting article here including details on timing for local launch - August 2017 is date slated: Skoda Kodiaq teased, initial details revealed (http://www.caradvice.com.au/460749/skoda-kodiaq-teased-initial-details-revealed/)

Also looks like the top of the range is going to share the same 132TSI engine as the new Tiguan. It will be interesting to see whether they put in the DQ500 DSG too.

[tigger73]

Skoda international website has a teaser page up on the Kodiaq: SKODA KODIAQ - The All New Skoda Kodiaq (http://www.skoda-auto.com/en/models/kodiaq/)

[Fred Nurk]

I still can't get a handle on how big this thing will be. Will it be a direct competitor for the Tiguan and the Yeti, or is it aimed somewhere between the Touraeg and the Tiguan, which given the price disparity between the two, is probably well placed. Not sure if the 132TSI is the best engine for it on that basis, but I don't have any idea what would be appropriate instead.

[Dutch77]

I still can't get a handle on how big this thing will be. Will it be a direct competitor for the Tiguan and the Yeti, or is it aimed somewhere between the Touraeg and the Tiguan, which given the price disparity between the two, is probably well placed. Not sure if the 132TSI is the best engine for it on that basis, but I don't have any idea what would be appropriate instead.

It's intended to compete in the large SUV category (Kluger, CX9, Sante Fe etc) and still boast class leading capacity so safe to say it's a size up from the Tiguan line.

[tigger73]

The new Kodiaq is 4.70m long and has a luggage capacity of up to 2,065 litres.

Compare this to the current Yeti which is 4.22m and has storage of 1,760 litres.

Or the New Tiguan which is 4.48m long and luggage capacity of 1,655 litres.

Or the generation 1 Tiguan which 4.43m and 1,510 litres.

So yes the Kodiaq is definitely a bigger vehicle and will be competing against the other larger SUVs as Dutch mentioned. Plus it can also be optioned up with a 3rd row seating to make a 7 seater which all of the small/medium SUVs can't.

[iampivot]

Lots of pictures in this Norwegian newspaper article. They've apparently been to Norway to do promo shots.

Her er Skodas første store SUV - DN.no (http://www.dn.no/privat/dnBil/2016/09/02/1226/Nye-biler/her-er-skodas-frste-store-suv)

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[Greg Roles]

Good pics on the Skoda Facebook page, is it just me or does it look like Daewoo did over a Q7?

https://www.facebook.com/skodaaustralia/posts/1051322591648997

[Scarfies]

Good overview from the launch here: https://youtu.be/Ks6QdkSqIEc
I don't know if anyone else follows this YouTube channel (really detailed reviews). I love it, Thomas is sooooo German.

[nickd]

Can't believe they're not offering it with the 206kW TSI as in the Superb... 140kW strikes me as underpowered.. Particularly if they want it to go up against the Kluger..

[tigger73]

From the video, the 140TDI with 400Nm torque will be the one to get as the highest power petrol engine is the 132TSI.

Also the good thing about both the TDI engines is that they are matched to the high torque DQ500 7 speed DSG.

I'm not sure on how the smaller engines will go hauling around this size vehicle - especially when it gets loaded up with passengers/luggage.

edit: Just found the first "local" article here: 2017 Skoda Kodiaq seven-seat SUV revealed, Australian launch due next year (http://www.caradvice.com.au/476605/2017-skoda-kodiaq-seven-seat-suv-revealed-australian-launch-due-next-year/)

[woofy]

Yeah I thought the 162 engine used in the RS and Superb would be an obvious choice so was surprised they put the smaller one in. Although there has been rumours there might be an RS version so the more potent petrol again might make an appearance yet.

[woofy]

Can't believe they're not offering it with the 206kW TSI as in the Superb... 140kW strikes me as underpowered.. Particularly if they want it to go up against the Kluger..

This might be for the rumoured RS version that might be still to come.

[tigger73]

Have a look at the comprehensive video that was posted and towards the end they actually interview the Skoda head engine guy. He didn't give anything away regarding the bi-turbo diesel (not that we will get it here anyway) but said that the petrol/electric hybrid is not in the plans for the Kodiaq.

Whether there are plans to put any higher power petrol engines in he didn't say.

Though the 140kW diesel has decent torque and should pull along nicely, but I really suspect the engine choices are based on their largest market which is Europe. Having said that they also mentioned that Skoda may be about to launch in the US which may increase the engine options/offerings.

[Sharkie]

If an RS Kodiaq is released (206+TSI), I'll buy 1. Preferably with 7 seats and in a manual .....

Skoda Superb RS, Kodiaq RS models under consideration (http://www.caradvice.com.au/460461/skoda-superb-kodiaq-rs-models-under-consideration/)

[woofy]

My plan has always been to get a Kodiaq to replace my diesel Santa Fe. If I got a sharper deal on my RS Octavia I would be getting one sooner, but will wait and see. I've heard that this is likely going to be made in an Asian countries for the US. Hopefully we get the CZ made versions....

[bobski]

Can't believe they're not offering it with the 206kW TSI as in the Superb... 140kW strikes me as underpowered.. Particularly if they want it to go up against the Kluger..

I reckon the 140 diesel would haul it adequately - its only a tick over 1500kg. Kluger is nearly 500kg heavier (probably a little bigger)!!! (There's a 176 killerwasp VW diesel that would slot in nicely though!). The 7Spd DSGs make a big difference to how fast they feel too.

[aware]

Looks pretty decent for a kiddy hauler. Certainly would have to be a better alternative to a CX-9/Kluger etc.

But yet another SUV that will be found either at the nearest cafe or the school carpark.

[woofy]

Looks pretty decent for a kiddy hauler. Certainly would have to be a better alternative to a CX-9/Kluger etc.

But yet another SUV that will be found either at the nearest cafe or the school carpark.

That's what they are for? What other use would you like? Better than a 100+k landcruiser sitting there that never leaves the road.

[aware]

That's what they are for? What other use would you like? Better than a 100+k landcruiser sitting there that never leaves the road.

Agreed on the Landcruiser point. Anything is better than a Landcruiser.

However what's the point of buying a tall 7 seater that is supposedly off road capable when they'll rarely carry 7 people (if they ever do), will never tow and certainly won't go off road. Caught up with a friend from uni (who's just bought a Tucson or whatever the smaller Hyundai SUV is) and she couldn't believe the space in the Octavia.

Naturally I understand why Skoda has made this - because it's what the consumer wants. I just happen to live in a part of Sydney where SUVs are mandatory for no reason other than because they can buy one and carry little Johnny to soccer.

[nickd]

I reckon the 140 diesel would haul it adequately - its only a tick over 1500kg. Kluger is nearly 500kg heavier (probably a little bigger)!!!
That's basically the same as my RS wagon (power and weight)... I wouldn't want it to be any less. The Kluger (I think) comes with a ~200kW option which I had as a rental on our last holiday and it was quite nice (the rest of it was **** compared to my RS).

I remember driving the 4x4 Superb which was only ~104kW and it was noticeably underpowered compared to the then 125kW version. Bigger + AWD + more passengers + only 5kW just doesn't add up.

I've been looking forward to the Kodiaq because I love my RS but will be needing more space for hauling kids and friends when they get bigger but this is a serious disappointment.

[woofy]

It's not all over yet, as others have mentioned they may be intentionally keeping a hotter diesel and Petrol variant for a later release. My Current Santa Fe diesel is still 147kw even being diesel so wouldn't want to lug around a car that size without something equivalent. I would have thought the 162kW petrol would have been an obvious option.

[tigger73]

I reckon the 140 diesel would haul it adequately - its only a tick over 1500kg. Kluger is nearly 500kg heavier (probably a little bigger)!!! (There's a 176 killerwasp VW diesel that would slot in nicely though!). The 7Spd DSGs make a big difference to how fast they feel too.

The 176kW diesel won't be coming to Aus any time soon. It's only rated for cool weather climates and Aus is a hot weather country (hence why NZ get it in the Passat and we don't).

The high torque 7 speed DSG is a big plus over the 6 speed and any car/model that includes it will definitely be on my shopping list.

I've also driven the Tiguan with 130TDI and 7 speed DSG and it works really well. The high torque diesel and short shifting DSG works better in the diesel than in the petrol which you have to put the boot in to get it to rev.

I really wouldn't be upset owning a 140TDI Kodiaq. Agree it would be nice to have a higher power petrol option but that's why you have chip tuning ;) I'm still waiting to 100% confirm the 132TSI in the Kodiaq is the 2.0 turbo (same as Tiguan). In which case this is the detuned 162TSI engine and a tune will take this to ~230kW. If they mate this to the 7 speed DSG this will be the model to get.

[tigger73]

A couple of youtube videos of footage for promos:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVR0CnV_6Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBPpCgbm_qg

[zacdaman]

It's not all over yet, as others have mentioned they may be intentionally keeping a hotter diesel and Petrol variant for a later release. My Current Santa Fe diesel is still 147kw even being diesel so wouldn't want to lug around a car that size without something equivalent. I would have thought the 162kW petrol would have been an obvious option.

They have been testing the 177kW BiTDI. Quoting from Autoexpress:"When asked at the Kodiaq’s reveal in Berlin if the Kodiaq could take more power, Christian Struber (R&D for Skoda) said, “I have been driving such a car only last week, and it was fantastic. From an engineering perspective, of course we want to give the Kodiaq even more performance, and we’ve been working on this. Now we must wait for the business case. When pressed on the nature of the engine, Struber admitted, “It was a diesel.” It is believed that Skoda is preparing to fit the twin-turbodiesel from the VW Passat into the Kodiaq."

Hot Skoda Kodiaq to get twin-turbo power and 240bhp | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/kodiaq/96896/hot-skoda-kodiaq-to-get-twin-turbo-power-and-240bhp)

Adding to that he also said something talking along those lines on an Autogefuhl video.

[Mysticality]

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Kodiaq V6 TDI, anyone? :cool:

[tigger73]

Pricing for the new Kodiaq is out in the UK: Å*KODA Kodiaq - Å*KODA (http://www.skoda.co.uk/why-skoda/kodiaq)

It looks like the Kodiaq is priced just under the equivalent Tiguan in the UK, however is a step up in size.

[pologti18t]

http://youtu.be/4n61Jq2ksh8

[skodian]

Instruction on how to operate your Skoda Kodiaq :-:rolleyes:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIEZyTxpg8k