adzify106
06-01-2015, 08:07 PM
Hi All,
Second post to the forums, been doing lots of reading and hoping some of you kind people might be able to give me some advice. Bought this Passat off my old man who had no issues with it and it had just come out of it's warranty period. Had nothing but problems unfortunately which VW keep charging an arm and a leg to get fixed - if it keeps going the way it is I'm just going to have to sell it off :facepalm:
Had a service on it (2008 Passat TDI DSG) about 6 months ago, noticed it was having some issues starting (would fire/turn over) but would splutter out, then on second attempt would start fine. Asked the guys at Peninsula VW to check the Battery and see if that was causing the issues, they finished the service and they said the battery was fine.
Next week the issue happened twice so went to local batt. shop and sure enough they said it had low voltage or similar and this was causing the problems in the ignition process. At the time I thought the guy was prob just after a sale and if VW checked it then surely they would have checked it to their standards required for starting, so I put off replacing it.
Now in the past 2-3 weeks the issue has been happening LOTS, enough to concern me whether it is actually going to start or not. I'll put the key in first-stage, second stage (elec fires up, glow plug lamp goes out) then ignition and nothing sometimes 3-4 times. Take keys completely out wait 20secs or so and then try again and it starts.
Last week when I had some issues starting something different happened, on the first attempt I heard 3 or 4 loud-long beeps (definitely not the faint warning/courtesy tones). I got no messages or error on the dash though and on subsequent firing attempts heard no more warning beeps of any sort.
With a bit of research I found this:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f27/b6-125tdi-passat-3-high-pitched-beeps-when-starting-car-77962.html
And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxLxtyCXAbc (Only pay attention to the first 10 seconds of the video, this is exactly what my car is doing but multiple times before it successfully starts - I have not experienced the problems/warning indicators he received further on in the video). From the looks of the video looks like his Injector seals have gone.
I have no idea if those beeps are related to the firing issue.
So now coming into summer and going back to work (firefighter) I am concerned that my car is going to leave me stranded somewhere so I took it back to Peninsula VW and told them of the issue. They had it for several hours today and did some 'testing' and have come back, with... surprise surprise Battery needs to be replaced.
1. Can't understand what the difference between the battery test they (and the local battery shop) did back then and how that could be so different to now. How would their battery tests compare to the test done at a dedicated battery shop?
2. Is it definitely a battery issue or could it be an injector problem or other issue and would they have tested for this?
3. The car is out of warranty and they want $372 just for the 'testing' they have done so far to determine its a bad battery and a further $287.65 to replace and fit new battery.
If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions as to what to do now I'd be interested to hear them, I appreciate your time.
All the best,
Adam
PS If you need any other info please let me know, happy to oblige.
Second post to the forums, been doing lots of reading and hoping some of you kind people might be able to give me some advice. Bought this Passat off my old man who had no issues with it and it had just come out of it's warranty period. Had nothing but problems unfortunately which VW keep charging an arm and a leg to get fixed - if it keeps going the way it is I'm just going to have to sell it off :facepalm:
Had a service on it (2008 Passat TDI DSG) about 6 months ago, noticed it was having some issues starting (would fire/turn over) but would splutter out, then on second attempt would start fine. Asked the guys at Peninsula VW to check the Battery and see if that was causing the issues, they finished the service and they said the battery was fine.
Next week the issue happened twice so went to local batt. shop and sure enough they said it had low voltage or similar and this was causing the problems in the ignition process. At the time I thought the guy was prob just after a sale and if VW checked it then surely they would have checked it to their standards required for starting, so I put off replacing it.
Now in the past 2-3 weeks the issue has been happening LOTS, enough to concern me whether it is actually going to start or not. I'll put the key in first-stage, second stage (elec fires up, glow plug lamp goes out) then ignition and nothing sometimes 3-4 times. Take keys completely out wait 20secs or so and then try again and it starts.
Last week when I had some issues starting something different happened, on the first attempt I heard 3 or 4 loud-long beeps (definitely not the faint warning/courtesy tones). I got no messages or error on the dash though and on subsequent firing attempts heard no more warning beeps of any sort.
With a bit of research I found this:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f27/b6-125tdi-passat-3-high-pitched-beeps-when-starting-car-77962.html
And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxLxtyCXAbc (Only pay attention to the first 10 seconds of the video, this is exactly what my car is doing but multiple times before it successfully starts - I have not experienced the problems/warning indicators he received further on in the video). From the looks of the video looks like his Injector seals have gone.
I have no idea if those beeps are related to the firing issue.
So now coming into summer and going back to work (firefighter) I am concerned that my car is going to leave me stranded somewhere so I took it back to Peninsula VW and told them of the issue. They had it for several hours today and did some 'testing' and have come back, with... surprise surprise Battery needs to be replaced.
1. Can't understand what the difference between the battery test they (and the local battery shop) did back then and how that could be so different to now. How would their battery tests compare to the test done at a dedicated battery shop?
2. Is it definitely a battery issue or could it be an injector problem or other issue and would they have tested for this?
3. The car is out of warranty and they want $372 just for the 'testing' they have done so far to determine its a bad battery and a further $287.65 to replace and fit new battery.
If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions as to what to do now I'd be interested to hear them, I appreciate your time.
All the best,
Adam
PS If you need any other info please let me know, happy to oblige.