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mollins
30-05-2006, 02:53 PM
im convinced a rear sway bar would stiffen up my suspension set up
nicely, but im hard pressed to find a cheap genuine one...(if anyone
has one for sale for not too much then please pm me)

so..

is there a cheap alternative bar that would fit??

or...

i was thinking of modifying the standard rear trailing arm setup to acheive
the same outcome.... maybe by welding in some extra angle across the
back of the bar, or some sort of cross member between the trailing arm
and torsion bar...

any ideas, suggestions or comments would be much appreciated

cheers

mike

syncro
30-05-2006, 06:17 PM
Welding is not recomended.
See if Loon can get you a genuine.

82cab
30-05-2006, 07:36 PM
Talk to worm. He just had one listed on ebay which is genuine.

gotrice
31-05-2006, 07:09 PM
Hey I want a sway bar too! Both front and rear. Anyone got one?

Tim

aprr32
31-05-2006, 09:26 PM
I've got no sway bars but I've probably got a pair of ANTI SWAY bars out the back if your'e interested Tim. All you have to do is ask.

Golfwise
31-05-2006, 10:35 PM
ARBs don't stiffen up your suspension they decrease the roll.
Get a set of stiffer springs dude. :D

mollins
31-05-2006, 11:02 PM
yeah im not silly... i have stiff springs, hard shocks and a front anti roll bar... my front has very little roll compared to the rear which causes the
front outside wheel to cop all the mass round a bend... so i want to reduce the understeer by improving my rear setup...

i have a spare rear trailing arm, so im fine to test some ideas ... i was thinking about (rather than welding) drilling holes in the filllets between the bar and arms and connecting the two sides with a bar of some sort... should theoretically achive the same thing (assuming the fillets are strong enough)

gotrice
31-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Pete, I will will be over shortly!!!!!

Golfwise
31-05-2006, 11:39 PM
im convinced a rear sway bar would stiffen up my suspension set up
nicely, but im hard pressed to find a cheap genuine one...(if anyone
has one for sale for not too much then please pm me)



mike
You used the word stiffen ? Who's silly then :P
Don't use a front bar, take it off and feel an improvement.

mollins
01-06-2006, 12:51 AM
You used the word stiffen ? Who's silly then :P

:oops: true.. haha

i've driven golfs without the front bar and i prefer the feel with it on... the vw dudes back in the day must have put them on the gtis for a reason.. its just a bit annoying that all you get is nice safe understeer way before the rear end is pushed to its limits.. plus theres no back end slidage sideways action :cry: ...

just another question.. ive found the front lower-stress bars make a huge difference.. but i was wondering if the front strut brace, or the rear upper stress bar make noticable improvements?

Golf Loon
01-06-2006, 09:10 AM
Bottom Front brace, Top Front, Back Top. In that order for usefullness.

You only need the back for motorsport really.

Golfwise
01-06-2006, 09:40 AM
My point is that one shouldn't put a front ARB on without a rear one .The rear one is the most important one not the front one.Its not an old Holden .
The factory put ARBs on their GTi etc in pairs not front alone and in some cases put rear ones on without the front.
Thats why I suggested you take the front one off untill you get a rear one . :D
Lower stress bar is a must as it should have been built into the original design but in 1975 on 5 inch wheels and 155/13 tyres the slip angle factor would have saved any extra stresses on the lower pivot points.

syncro
01-06-2006, 09:50 AM
Lower stress bar is a must as it should have been built into the original design but in 1975 on 5 inch wheels and 155/13 tyres the slip angle factor would have saved any extra stresses on the lower pivot points.

That's why they put them as standard on 16V Sciroccos. The front lowers are the only stress bars that really make a big difference. Adjustable ones are BS. Adjust the body to factory specs.

Campaign
01-06-2006, 08:57 PM
Umm!!
What's a lower stress bar?
What is it supposed to do? :?:

syncro
01-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Measure a few Golfs and you will find out.

Campaign
01-06-2006, 09:38 PM
Is the lower stress bar the same thing as a front lower strut brace?

syncro
01-06-2006, 09:43 PM
Is the lower stress bar the same thing as a front lower strut brace?Yes