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Thread: Tiguan cruise control missing cluster icon, vag code request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowLemon View Post
    Toki could you post your own VCDS scan? Did you have to change the SWCM to retrofit CC, or did you just swap the stalk to include the CC switches? I have this function working (CC display in white MFD) a base trendline model early 2008 Tiguan TDI in Australia with stock cruise control and all Mk5 electronics, except:
    1) Swapped the SWCM from 1K0 953 549 "BG" version to 1K0 953 549 "CH" version @ SW 0111 (for G85 steering angle sensor near slipring, not in steering rack) for mk6 MFSW Golf GTI retrofit.

    2) instrument cluster swap from 5N0 920 870 D @ SW 2220 (red MFD VDO with micronas chip) to 5N0 920 871 B @ SW 0206 (white MFD VDO with NEC chip)

    Everything else, ie: CECM, CCM, CAN gateway is all low-line ancient mk5 based rubbish.

    CONCLUSION
    • The function must therefore either be coming from SWCM or Instrument Cluster. I never had to do any coding to set this up, it just worked. I get CCdisplay in white MFD with little CC icon, and no more green indicator light in the speedo.
    • All "CH"-version SWCM have SW = 0111 AFAIK according to ross-tech website. I got the CH SWCM from eBay china for AUD$60 posted. Installation required removal of steering wheel IIRC. Link to ross tech: Steering Wheel Control Module Versions - Ross-Tech Wiki
    • Also my 'new' retrofit white MFD SW is 0206 which is the lowest version I have seen for this part number, so unlikely to be SW version issue (though may be entire cluster part number)
    • Perhaps it is due to coding of cluster? Mine is set to "7 - AUSTRALIA", see coding below. I think some regions behave differently, like US setting means you don't get large speed display in white MFD etc. I get the large speed display (need to have Alt. Speed unticked in settings menu) Note: when you change region, sometimes RNS510 radio loses it's coding.


    Attachment 10647

    MY CODING
    Code:
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
       Component: J0527           056 0111  
       Coding: 0001632
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H30 0036  
       Coding: 00000131
    
    No fault code found.
    
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 B    HW: 5N0 920 871 B
       Component: KOMBI         H05 0206  
       Coding: 710E00
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
    
    No fault code found.
    This is really amazing, I have exact same cluster and I don't have CC indicator

    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (CBA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 022 RP    HW: 03L 906 022 RP
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  6188  
       Revision: 13H02---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000175
       Shop #: WSC 00070 000 1048576
       VCID: 840D12C9C700BE9
    
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.lbl
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 FD    HW: 09G 927 750 FD
       Component: AQ 250 6F           1124  
       Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000328
       Shop #: WSC 00070 000 00000
       VCID: 78F5F6390BC86A9
    
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 N    HW: 5N0 614 517 N
       Component: J104    C2 450 V2   0008  
       Revision: --H13---    Serial number: 00000002058529
       Coding: 0011554
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3973333D7042B31
    
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 CC    HW: 3AA 907 044 CC
       Component: Climatronic   H05 0607  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW36.rod
       VCID: 73EFC115DAAE091
    
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 086     HW: 5K0 937 086 
       Component: BCM PQ35 M    008 5019  
       Revision: BC008001    
       Coding: 48180ABFE833F3C040C80004310091EC43793080537D85007F8008000000
       Shop #: WSC 00070 123 10485
       VCID: F1E34B1D28B2BB1
    
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 919 475 H    HW: 1T0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA H07 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 88520915701838
       Coding: 300103
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 40855ED9D398E29
    
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 H    HW: 5N0 959 655 H
       Component: J234__201 VW10 HI   1916  
       Revision: 20013000    Serial number: 003E1P9Y4YTO  
       Coding: 0012337
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 428154D11D94F09
    
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
       Component: J0527           055 0111  
       Coding: 0001832
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 7AF1EC3135C4789
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H30 0036  
       Coding: 00000131
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 B    HW: 5N0 920 871 B
       Component: KOMBI         H05 0206  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 110F00
       Shop #: WSC 00070 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
       VCID: 30650E196B38729
    
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AB    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H06 0081  
       Revision:   H06 01    Serial number: 290509F2002335
       Coding: FDA27F06404603006002
       Shop #: WSC 07305 123 10485
       VCID: 67D7A5455676F51
    
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 C    HW: 0AY 907 554 C
       Component: Haldex 4Motion      0041  
       Coding: 0000005
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 4B9F79F52ADE311
    
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 B    HW: 5N0 920 871 B
       Component: IMMO          H05 0206  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
       VCID: 30650E196B38729
    
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 P    HW: 1T0 035 680 P
       Component: RNS-MID       H10 5274  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N0586886
       Coding: 04010402040000A10000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
       VCID: 3B7F2935BA7E811
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V11  8117 
    
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5KD 959 701 A    HW: 5KD 959 701 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2103  
       Coding: 0004350
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00305
       VCID: 448D52C90780FE9
    
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 F    HW: 5N1 909 148 D
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.0   1101  
       Revision: 1AH03223    Serial number: 00071780073601
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 999999
       VCID: 356B3F0D5C5A571
    
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: EZE_2         H06 0081  
       Revision:   H06 01    Serial number: 290509F2002335
       Coding: 050B0500
       Shop #: WSC 07305 123 10485
       VCID: E6C92841117C6C9
    
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 C    HW: 5N0 959 702 C
       Component: Tuer-SG         008 2005  
       Coding: 0004606
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 36693801415C5C9
    
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 E    HW: 5N0 907 801 E
       Component: J540 EPB3  VW-13948 0008  
       Revision:   H10       Serial number: 00000000015470
       Coding: 0000057
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 31630B1DA8327B1
    
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 P    HW: 1T0 035 680 P
       Component: RNS-MID       H10 5274  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N0586886
       Coding: 04010402040000A10000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
       VCID: 3B7F2935BA7E811
    
      Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 B    HW: 5N0 959 703 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2001  
       Coding: 0000208
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 36693801415C5C9
    
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 907 441 A    HW: 5N0 907 441 A
       Component: J772__Rearview      0030  
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number:    PA8 J952024
       Coding: 0020010
       Shop #: WSC 00040 286 10485
       VCID: 2D5B176DB40A1F1
    
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 B    HW: 5N0 959 704 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2001  
       Coding: 0000208
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012557
       VCID: 377735054656A51
    
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 D    HW: 3C8 035 730 D
       Component: Telefon       022 0982  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105063022
       Coding: 060100010100010000001101
       Shop #: WSC 00070 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
       ROD: EV_UHVPremi_VW36.rod
       VCID: 244DF2492FC0DE9

    So you see, same cluster and same SW. Do you believe it might be limited by the CAN that it's not sending Cruise speed to cluster?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by n4s View Post
    This is really amazing, I have exact same cluster and I don't have CC indicator

    [...]

    So you see, same cluster and same SW. Do you believe it might be limited by the CAN that it's not sending Cruise speed to cluster?
    Hello n4s, have you got any news about the CC indicator?

    Since you have the same exact configuration of SWCM and cluster have you tried the same coding that YellowLemon has? Maybe is just that...

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toki View Post
    Hello n4s, have you got any news about the CC indicator?

    Since you have the same exact configuration of SWCM and cluster have you tried the same coding that YellowLemon has? Maybe is just that...

    Cheers.
    no update

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    It's old thing but I have an update.
    Installed new color cluster, 5N0 920 883 E and exactly same thing, only green icon and adaptation channel blocked. I would say this is not cluster related, maybe engine or Steering controller.

    The engine is the same for all 3 of us, CBAB, but controllers are not the same AA vs RP.

    I also have
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
    Component: J0527 055 0111

    But mine is 55, yours 56.

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    Finally I have a good update.

    I managed to do it!!!

    check here:
    Question to cruise control retrofitters - General Discussion - myTiguan Forum

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    Hello friends. I have a similar problem.


    My car: Golf MK6, y2010, petrol, 5door ver., hatchback.
    My control units:
    Instruments: 5K6920882 - Dropbox - IMG_20170725_193025.jpg (a real photo from my car)
    BCM: 1K0937086C
    MF steering wheel module: 1K0953549CF, subsystem: 5K0959542C
    Gateway: 1K0907530AD


    After the swap about Instrument cluster from 5K0920862H (only PC on display) to 5K6920882 (Premium colored) I have two problems.
    Previously it was OK.


    When I activate a cruise control, I do not see the set value. Only a green icon on rights clusters. Not on left side botton on display.
    I tried loged to VCDS and click 17-Instruments - 07 Coding or 10 Adaptation. The only choice about cruise control option is shown in red types and as inaccessible.
    I tried set different country's and coding se on 170B00, 370B00 and 770B00. Nothing happened.


    Second... I do not see the Fuel range. Where Can I set this option as visibled? I'm sure this will be see in "MFD data". I mean this one: Dropbox - mu8atasa.jpg
    It was on the previous Instrument cluster. Now I don't know where to show it via VCDS.


    I own The new Instruments two days. Yesterday It happened to I activated the high beam. The lights did not shine, the blue icon on left side of Instruments wasn't visible. The light horn worked. After about 5 unlucky attempts and approx. 2 minutes, I tried it again. And then everything was all right. Did this ever happen to anyone?


    Thank you for your advice!

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