Sorry, I haven't yet learned how to attach pics. Yep I was originally after some different speakers recommended by another installer but after speaking to Marty was told that they were too deep and that they actually wouldn't fit without body work. I have a 2011 118TSI so unless an amp was included as original equipment, then I actually dont have an amp installed. I asked at the time but I was told that these speakers are efficient enough that they dont actually need one. I was a bit doubtful but I've had the system up to about 15 on the mfd which I guess must be half way but it was plenty loud enough for me playing led zep or ac/dc. The sound was great. I've now rediscovered cds and also reloaded my ipod using the apple loss less process to increase sound quality.