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Thread: TDI Front LH Ball Joint Clonk

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    TDI Front LH Ball Joint Clonk

    For a while now I have had a clonk coming from the LHF suspension. It would only manifest under certain conditions.
    Previously I had placed a crowbar under the wheel when I had it on a jack to change the oil. It didn't heal itself so another look revealed movement in the balljoint area when gripping the wheel at 9 & 3 position.
    After dismantling, I looked at the swivel joint as VW call it, & it all looked good. The nyloc lock nut that pulls the joint into the housing had somehow loosened or it was not tightened correctly at the factory. I have owned the car from new & never touched the nut.
    I bought all new nuts as VW insists, together with a new stretch bolt that goes through the hub into the driveshaft.
    The new bolt was different from the hex. headed screw that was installed when new in late '05.
    I had bought the Haynes manual early in my ownership & had called for a tightening torque of 200Nm + 180 degrees.
    The new bolt is 12 point 24mm but should be tightened to 70Nm + 90 degrees as far as I can tell. Can someone confirm this. Below is a picture of the two types.
    VW also show the same bolt with ribbing under the flange head but wasn't available to purchase.




    The image on the left is the original hex. head with a very thick washer that is captive.
    The one on the right still uses a 24mm double hex socket but the 40mm flange that is forged as part of the screw would provide a larger area of clamping.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
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    I just had another look at my info & I have got it wrong. Without the ribbing it should still be tightened to 200Nm + 180 degrees.
    It is a pity I wasn't able to buy the ribbed bolt.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
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    Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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    The bolt on the right in the picture, is the revised bolt that's been in use for a few years now.

    You'll probably never get to 200Nm +180deg.

    As long as it's FT, it'll be ok.
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    Have you ever seen a bolt with the ribs under the flange?
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
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    Just make sure you tighten the bolt to 200Nm with the wheel not touching the ground and then lower the car on the wheel and tighten+180deg.

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    Thanks Transporter, yes I have read that. It's the same principle as on our T4. I wonder how many mechanics who work on VWs know this.
    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
    2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
    Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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