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Thread: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo - Help Needed

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    Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo - Help Needed

    Hello !

    I am looking for an owner of a Polo 6C with factory fitted DCC ( Sports Select ). Desperately need help !

    Have retrofitted a 2015 6C Polo with the DCC and almost everything works perfect. Only one problem remains. We cannot command the Sports Select to switch to Sports mode.

    Here is the write up on the project done. CBX RNS510 & Accessories: Polo Sports Select : Dynamic Chassis Control on 6C Polo

    Would really appreciate a helping hand with the VCDS information that we need. Here is the VCDS scan of the car after the work done.
    Thanks a million.

    CBX

    PHP Code:
    Monday,08,May,2017,17:50:50:24118
    VCDS 
    -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version
    17.1.3.0
    Data version
    20170320 DS267.7
    www
    .Ross-Tech.com

    Dealer
    /Shop Namecbx auto
    Workshop Code
    305 91777 091777

    VINWVWZZZ6RZFU049836   License PlatePOLO LEOW 1,2 DCC AFTER ERROR
    Mileage
    25628km-15924mi   Repair Order



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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Chassis Type6R (6C0)
    Scan01 02 03 08 09 14 15 17 19 44 5F

    VIN
    WVWZZZ6RZFU049836   Mileage25628km-15924miles

    01
    -Engine -- StatusOK 0000
    02
    -Auto Trans -- StatusOK 0000
    03
    -ABS Brakes -- StatusMalfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- StatusOK 0000
    09-CentElect. -- StatusOK 0000
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    -SuspElect. -- StatusOK 0000
    15
    -Airbags -- StatusOK 0000
    17
    -Instruments -- StatusOK 0000
    19
    -CAN Gateway -- StatusMalfunction 0010
    44
    -Steering Assist -- StatusOK 0000
    5F
    -Information Electr. -- StatusCannot be reached 0100
     
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       Part No SW
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       Component
    1.2l R4 TSI   H21 8228  
       Revision
    R5H21---    
       
    Coding: 01250012230411080000
       
    Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
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       ROD
    EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BB.rod
       VCID
    65CB5EAE643FF0697A-8030

       CAN Converter 01


    No fault code found.
    Readiness1110 0001

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    Address 02Auto Trans (J743)       Labels0CW-927-769.clb
       Part No SW
    0CW 300 046 G    HW0AM 927 769 K
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    GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5206  
       Revision
    00043014    Serial numberCU501409196312
       Coding
    0014
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
    ASAM DatasetEV_TCMDQ200021 001001
       ROD
    EV_TCMDQ200021.rod
       VCID
    3E79D1C2A12983B1DB-806A

    No fault code found
    .

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    Address 03ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
       Part No SW
    6C0 907 379     HW6R0 907 379 BA
       Component
    ESP9.0i       H03 0002  
       Serial number
    : 08506045140922
       
    Coding23DD2885892733C9111C106C0057C41491CC88080005C7090000
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
    ASAM DatasetEV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100015
       ROD
    EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
       VCID
    6CDD2B8A87D5C12125-8038

    1 Fault Found
    :

    1219 Coding invalid 
              U10DA 00 
    [009] - -
              
    Confirmed Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Fault Status00000001
                        Fault Priority
    3
                        Fault Frequency
    1
                        Reset counter
    155
                        Mileage
    25628 km
                        Date
    2017.05.07
                        Time
    17:39:07


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels6C0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW
    6C0 907 044 A    HW6C0 907 044 A
       Component
    Climatronic   H02 0104  
       Serial number
    :  1409101A-0029
       
    Coding200020011001100001
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
    ASAM DatasetEV_ACClimaValeoPQ26 003001
       ROD
    EV_ACClimaValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
       VCID
    224105B23591C751DF-8076

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: CentElect. (J519)       Labels6C0-937-089-V1.clb
       Part No SW
    6C0 937 089 A    HW6C0 937 089 
       
    ComponentBCM PQ26 Hi4R H06 0047  
       Serial number
    : 001028001732
       
    Coding: 03001840425300DB4B844000402703881000580253010000000000000000
       Shop 
    #: WSC 91777 305 91777
       
    ASAM DatasetEV_BCMA0 004003
       ROD
    EV_BCMA0_004_VW26.rod
       VCID
    2E59E182714973314B-807A

       Drivers Door Control Module

       
    Subsystem 1 Part No SW6R0 959 802 CH    HW6R0 959 801 CF  Labels6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component
    J386__TSG_FT  003 9610 
       Serial number
    KU0KU025091442688034
       Coding
    1400A1

       Front Passengers Door Control Module

       
    Subsystem 2 Part No SW6R0 959 801 CF    HW6R0 959 802 CH  Labels6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component
    J387__TSG_BT  003 9610 
       Serial number
    KU0KU015091442581170
       Coding
    0400A1

       Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender


       
    Drivers Door Rear Control Module
       
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       Component
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       Serial number
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       Coding
    1400A0

       Passengers Rear Door Control Module

       
    Subsystem 5 Part No SW6R0 959 811 N    HW6R0 959 811 N
       Component
    J388__TSG_HL  003 8610 
       Serial number
    KU0KU020101442934135
       Coding
    0400A0

    No fault code found
    .

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    Address 14SuspElect. (J250)       Labels6C0-907-359.clb
       Part No SW
    6C0 907 359     HW6C0 907 359 
       Component
    DAEMPFUNGS-SG H04 0007  
       Serial number
    13061602000033
       Coding
    80
       Shop 
    #: WSC 91777 305 91777
       
    ASAM DatasetEV_SwitcDampeContiTemic 001004
       ROD
    EV_SwitcDampeContiTemic.rod
       VCID
    6AD12D928D21DF1157-803E

    No fault code found
    .

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       Part No SW
    6C0 959 655 B    HW6C0 959 655 B
       Component
    VW20Airbag01D 001 0330  
       Revision
    : --------    Serial number003LN000ZYH4
       Coding
    88CCC000000000005C0000CA008800000000
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
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       ROD
    EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
       VCID
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       Side Sensor Driver Front

       
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    Serial number3575H009F1627C1271FT
       Coding
    2D2D2D

       Side Sensor Passenger Front

       
    Subsystem 2 Part No SW: -----------    HW410 821 408 14
       Component
    SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
       
    Serial number3585H00BF1628C01A09R
       Coding
    2D2D2D

       Side Sensor Driver Rear

       
    Subsystem 3 Part No SW: -----------    HW442 152 709 14
       Component
    SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
       
    Serial number3517A00A31730323909X
       Coding
    2D2D2D

       Side Sensor Passenger Rear

       
    Subsystem 4 Part No SW: -----------    HW442 152 709 14
       Component
    SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
       
    Serial number3527A00A5176F6017144
       Coding
    2D2D2D

    No fault code found
    .

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    Address 17Instruments (J285)       Labels5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW
    6C0 920 730 A    HW6C0 920 730 A
       Component
    KOMBI         110 0260  
       Coding
    2724090820000008000808000000000000000000
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
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    RODEV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
       VCID
    1F470C4606E3EAB9F0-804A

    No fault code found
    .


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    Address 19CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels6C0-909-901-V1.clb
       Part No SW
    6C0 909 901     HW6C0 937 089 
       
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       Revision
    : --------    Serial number: 001028001732
       
    Coding030100046F0A560071000000000000010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
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       ROD
    EV_GatewA0Lear_VW26.rod
       VCID
    65CB5EAE643FF0697A-8030

       Multi 
    Function Steering Wheel Control Module
       
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    E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
       
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    240000

       Battery Monitoring Control Module

       
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       Component
    J367-BDM  H08 0223 
       Serial number
    51281E41142821930261

    1 Fault Found
    :
    131699 Control unit for information electronics 1 
              U1054 00 
    [009] - No Communication
              Confirmed 
    Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Fault Status00000001
                        Fault Priority
    2
                        Fault Frequency
    1
                        Reset counter
    155
                        Mileage
    25628 km
                        Date
    2017.05.07
                        Time
    00:12:49

                        Supply voltage
    Terminal 3013.1 V
                        Terminal 15
    On


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44Steering Assist (J792)       Labels6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
       Part No SW
    6C2 909 144 M    HW6C2 909 144 D
       Component
    EPS_TRW_ALow  322 3211  
       Serial number
    CE9O0276
       Coding
    0007
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       
    ASAM DatasetEV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
       ROD
    EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
       VCID
    336FF0F69A6B5ED924-8066

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5FInformation Electr.
    Cannot be reached

    End
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    Last edited by cbx750p; 28-05-2017 at 03:26 AM.

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    ^^^^ hm..... interesting project and kudos for getting this far!! I don't know the answer, but it appears from the DTCs that the solution might be in the ABS coding section (perhaps?).

    Clearly the Gateway module error and the error in the MIB module is related - what changes were made in the retrofit to generate this DTC? But solving this problem might be the first step (to obviate the possibility of a connection to the Sports selection issue)

    Here's why I think this is an important first step in your process: I'm aware that the Polo 6C isn't built on a MQB platform, but it does have MQB-ish like characteristics ( in the structure of its CAN bus network and in some of its control modules - like the BCM and MIB). On MQB vehicles, the Sport's function can be enabled by setting to active the two adaptation channels in the MIB below:

    [5F-Information Electr. -> Adaptation]: IDE04300-ENG117671-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_Brake_Function
    [5F-Information Electr. -> Adaptation]: IDE04300-ENG117760-Vehicle function list BAP-Brake_0x26

    And by setting the lower nibble of Byte 29 on the ABS module to hex 03 (0011). Now your ABS module only has 26 x Bytes, so the ABS part of the process doesn't apply - but I suspect the MIB part is necessary (I think).

    The problem is that the Byte/Bit structure for the ABS module is not known, but my suggestion (for what its worth) is that you search the Ross Tech forum for autoscans of the Polo 6C with factory fitted module @ address hex14. Of course, the more autoscans that you can find the better, but if you can locate sufficient of these autoscans, see it you can find a pattern in the ABS code-strings that isn't in your module.


    If it helps, you can use my handy-dandy code-string to Byte/Bit converter, which you can download HERE

    Good luck

    Don
    Last edited by DV52; 28-05-2017 at 11:09 AM.
    Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is on-line, in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the expertise of the wider forum! Thank you.

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    Hi Don,

    thanks for the pointers.

    Will try the various codings that I can find on the subject ABS. I hope that we can resolve the invalid coding issue though I don't understand what the ABS have to do with the Sports Select function.

    Fingers crossed !

    Jim

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